Hi! Learning VB

[malapidp 0]

I thought of lerning VB.Is it useful today? is it easy to learn? if not, what are the other options for an easy-to-learn language?Thanks!

[malapidp 0]

Oh, and one more thing...I tis important that it's language editor will make it easier for me to create the GUI. Thanks again!

[filipc 0]

Hi,VB is very easy for learning.But, if you want to programm, learn PHP, it's MUCH better.This forum is written in PHP.bye...

[spirit_valley 0]

But, if you want to programm, learn PHP, it's MUCH better.

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PHP is only a scripting language for web development. You just can't compare it with VB.

malapidp- I would suggest you to learn VB, Java or C. They're not very difficult to learn and is good for beginners. If you wish to develop website programs, then PHP and Java is your choice.

Many programming languages are somewhat like C (VB is an exception) so think of it as a stepping-stone. I don't suggest you to use it as your lifetime programming language since it's not object-oriented.

[Galahad 0]

I'll disagree on acount of PHP, it is now classified as full blown programming language. You can create console applications with it...As for VB, learn it, it's very very easy... Much easyer than C (at least it was to me)... If you plan on making commercial appz, use VB, since it's much more productive, and writing is quick. If you plan on writing something more intensive, than by all means use C/C++/C#... That is, if you're going to develop for Windows :PI'm a VB programmer myself, and won't give up on it, ever I just reorientated myself to PHP, since it's easyer to get a job

[s243a 0]

Personally I don?t like Visual Basic much because I find the style requirements two structured. I like the freedom to make a line as long as I want. I also like the braces of C and Java which denote control structures. I think JAVA is the easiest to learn not so much because of the language but because of the quality of the documentation and the amount of stuff that is free and already built for you. I particularly like the amount of prebuilt data structures that are available to the JAVA language. The only concern I have about learning JAVA first is some people feel it is better to learn a procedural programming language before an object oriented language. I see a merit both ways and I will leave it to others to debate.

[s243a 0]

Here is an interesting onion contrary to what I read.

It's the culture of computing that needs to have a developmental revolution. Ontogeny needs to recapitulate phylogeny. That is, individual programmers need to go through the same learning process that computer science as a whole has gone through. Programmers need to learn symbolic programming before they learn structured programming, structured programming before modular programming, modular programming before object-oriented programming.

Personally this approach seems backwards to me. To me object oriented programming is the easiest to understand how to solve problems and symbolic programming is the most difficult. The recursive nature of symbolic programming makes it very difficult to understand what is going on. Object oriented programming is self documentary and you can break the problem down into much easer to understand concepts.

The problem with learning Java as a first language (besides the fact that it is so complicated that it's not a good language to learn at all, first or otherwise) is that you can't go anywhere without doing object-oriented programming.

I have heard this criticism and now sure I agree. You can execute a script of statements within main. You can even create functions if desired. But why not create objects and what makes objects complicated. To me the syntax of Java is much easier to read then C so I assume it is much easier to read then C++. I guess it just goes to show how much of these kinds of comments are just onions. Clearly what programming language you should use depends on what you are trying to achieve, what problem you want to solve how you mind works and your background in math and computer science. There is no clear order people should learn programming langue in general. Personally I think teachers should introduce students to octave in grade 3 to help students with there math homework.

This article outlines some helpfull paradymes for solving programming problems:
http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/

[Galahad 0]

I totaly agree with you, everyone should choose in wich language to programm...Personaly, I startet out on Commodore 64, and as it's OS was built around BASIC, I had to learn it. Then I started making small programs, then a bit larger. Then I moved to PC, but never fellt the need to move to some other programming language, Basic somehow always did the job, and as years and years passed, my Basic experience grew larger, as well as thinking-like-a-computer. Sometimes, I would actualy dream a solution for some problem that I couldn't solve easily! :rolleyes:I learned Pascal besides Basic, and I used it for a while, but left it. Now, I'm using PHP for most time, since I reorientated myself to website programming, but every once in a while, I start my VB IDE, and make something. It's never finished, and remains there for some future use, when I may need some code that I geniousely thought of then, and I can't at that time...Jesus, what did I write just now :)Just as long as we program, it doesn't matter in what language, we all think the same way, one's and zero's

[haron 0]

I think that Visual Basic is easiest for lerning. Practically, if you know Paint you can make your first program. Of Course, you must find some tutorials on Internet if you mean to learn this language seriously.

http://www.vb-helper.com/
Here you can find some tutorials for this programing language.

[Paradox 0]

I started off learning Basic, and much like it's name, it is. Very basic.However, Visual Basic is possible one of the most easy to use, and understand, programming language available to consumers. I use it all the time, and have saved myself much time by simply writing a program to do the work.Learn it, even if you don't plan to use it. It will serve as a stepping stone into the programming world.

[FaLgoR 0]

I'll disagree on acount of PHP, it is now classified as full blown programming language. You can create console applications with it...

 

As for VB, learn it, it's very very easy... Much easyer than C (at least it was to me)... If you plan on making commercial appz, use VB, since it's much more productive, and writing is quick. If you plan on writing something more intensive, than by all means use C/C++/C#... That is, if you're going to develop for Windows

 

I'm a VB programmer myself, and won't give up on it, ever I just reorientated myself to PHP, since it's easyer to get a job

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What?? You mean I can create console applications with php?? Have you any text about it? I want to know more about that. Thanks!