Online Money Through Roulettes Casino roulette Wheels

[sandeep89 0]

this is to do with making money online through roulettes. if it is not allowed, please delete.first, find an online roulette casino place, like 888. Then, go to their roulette wheels. This only works if you can see spins without paying, like a free spin or watch someone else bet.but anywayz, all you do is wait. As the roulette outcome is based on random numbers, the likelyhood of getting consecutives are very low. For example, getting 3/4 consecutive reds is low if it is truly random. So, you spin, and wait untill you get consecutive reds, 2 or 3 depending on how risky you wanna play it. But first, just see that a lot of consecutives do not happen normally, just to make sure. But then, once you see, for example, 3 consecutive reds, the likelyhood that there will be another one is very very low. So, bet on black (not too much) after you see 3 consecutive reds, and you should win. If not, then there have been 4, just keep on going and you should make your money double over and over again.again, please delete if not acceptable, could not see anywhere saying this could not be posted, but if i cant then fine.

[Unregistered 015 0]

Did you manage to win any money this way??If it's really random it could generate 14 red's in a row!

[sandeep89 0]

i haven't tried to win any money this way yet, gonna reg at an online casino asap.if you think about it, if the outcome was truly random, the odds of red would be 0.5 and black would be 0.5 (if u forget about 0 on green). If you have ever drawn a probability tree, you could work out the following:The probability that on the 1st spin, you get red = 0.5, where 0.5 is for red and 0.5 is for black, the total probability always equalling 1 (certain)The probability that on the 2nd spin, you get red = 0.5 x 0.5 = 0.25 or 1 quarter, where there would be a quarter for 2 reds, 1 quarter for 2 blacks, 1 quarter for red then black, and 1 quarter for black then red.The probability that on the 3rd spin, you would get red is 0.5 x 0.5 x 0.5 = 0.125, which is an eighth (1/8), and the probability would be an eighth for 3 consecutive blacks.Now, this probability is extremely low, and if you give enough spins, you should notice that this is rare. If it is not rare, although it should be, you might consider waiting until 4 or 5 consecutive colours. The probability of 4 consecutive colours is 0.0625, so less then 7 times every hundred spins, and 5 consecutive colours is 0.3125, which is just about 3 times every hundred spins.This is statistics, known as independant variables in probability, where one outcome does not have an effect on the next, and using these calculations, i see no reason why if the outcome is truly random, this strategy should not work. Coming back to what you said, where if the outcome was truly random (which it is), you said "it could generate 14 red's in a row!". Well, the likelyhood of it generating 14 consecutive reds is 0.00006103515625, which, if rounded to 6 decimal places, is 0.000062, or 62 times every million spins (31 times every 5 hundred thousand spins). This is very rare, and all it takes is a quick observation to see if this looks like its gonna happen, i've played briefly in casino's before and i get 3 consecutive colours at most.The rest of it is just patience and good thinking.hope i have helpedSandeep

[Blacklaser 0]

sandeep89, ask your math teacher about this, he'll tell you you are wrong... and if you don't believe him go to a math forum they'll tell you.even after 500 consecutive reds the probability of hitting black or red are still 50/50. If your way of reasoning would really work there would be no casinos.The probability of getting x reds is .5^x The probability of getting (x+1) reds is .5^(x+1) If you divide the probabilty of getting x reds (which you already have) by the probability of getting x+1 reds you get a ratio of 1/2 (this works for every x, even 0) which means that after you already had x reds in ever 1 out of 2 times you'll get a (x+1)th red. This means that no matter how many consecutives of one color there have been, the chances of getting another one of the same color are 50%. Which is exacty the same as just completely ignoring all the previous ones and guessing outright.As you say yourself "one outcome does not have an effect on the next", exactly... no matter what all the previous results have been, chances are still 50/50 of getting either red or black.Basically, what it boils down to is the following.. once you already have 13 reds in a row, chances are 50% you'll get 14 reds in a row, but expecting to get 14 reds in a row if you haven't rolled at all yet is unrealistic. once you already have 3 or 13 or x reds in a row you can't use that probability anymore to calculate the next event, because it already happened and they are unrelated events if it is truely random.

Edited March 25, 2006 by Blacklaser (see edit history)

[sandeep89 0]

even after 500 consecutive reds the probability of hitting black or red are still 50/50. If your way of reasoning would really work there would be no casinos.

yes, the probability of getting a red is 0.5, even after 500 consecutive reds. The probability of having got those 500 consecutive reds as you said is:

.5^x

so, where x is 500, for 500 consecutive reds, the probability of this becomes 0.5^500 = extremely small...3.0549363634996046820519793932136e-151 comes out on calculator, so i think thats 3.0549363634996046820519793932136 x 10^-151, which is one hell of a small number.

 

Yes, the probability that if you take one spin, out of the context of its previous spins, the likelyhood of getting red is 0.5. However, its not the single spin you look at, its the spins that have happened before it as well.

 

If you have ever played roulettes online, you will see that getting large amounts of consecutive colours is amazingly rare, used to play online all the time, never once saw more then 5 consecutive reds/blacks.

 

I could ask my maths teacher, only thing is that i've just done things like this in maths class over the last month, and i know that its not wrong.

 

If you do not believe me, then fine, thats not for me to worry about, but i know that my maths is not at fault, this is correct maths, if i can be bothered to draw out and explain a probability tree to you, should you not know it, it might be a lot better explained. The probability that i have tried to explain is for independant events, where one outcome does not have an effect on the next outcome.

 

Im going to find an online roulette site and then ill show you what i mean, although taking the screenshots will be long...

 

sandeep

 

update: ok, this aint the best example, but hopefully it helps, i got a screenshot: http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/404.png

 

here, i wasn't that sure about betting on black, just because only 3 reds had gone, so i bet 1 on red and 2 on black. A black came up, so i won 1 credit, which aint much, but it helps. This is from pogo, and their roulette is screwed cos they have blue on their roulette wheels for multiplier bonuses and stuff, so its harder to see, but i hope this helps a little

Edited March 26, 2006 by sandeep89 (see edit history)

[Blacklaser 0]

I'm not even gonna bother to explain it again... if it is truely random then no matter how many reds there have been, chances are still 50/50. The mistake in your reasoning is very common among poeple who don't really understand complex probability. It is the reason why casions keep making money... go to a math forum, they'll rip you apart and so should your math teacher. I've had this in math class 3 years ago and I've had a lot of math since. And I didn't fail the class.

[sandeep89 0]

and ur sayin that i did? m8 im takin maths and further maths at college, AND im gettin As, taking 9 hours of maths exams in may, so don't tell me that i cant do maths. Casino's make money in real life cos its not completely random, and im sayin that online ones are...As i said, if you don't believe me, then to be honest i really don't care, i didnt make these posts that i did to convince you.If anyone here does believe me, or thinks that its worth a shot, check out some free roulette sites like pogo (not the best as explained before), but try it and see...if it works, good if it doesn't, you won't have lost anything.

[DefCrash 0]

That won?t work, believe me, i have thousents of pages with "milions" of tecnics for online and real casinos, and that one my friend, that one won't work, because i've tried a lot of times! You don?t even imagine the consuctive times that the same color cames out!!!And if you doble until the color comes out, that won't work too, because the table as a limit to play on colors, and you won?t be able to always doble! I?m not saying that you never win with that tecnic, but the losses will be more!!!But if you guys want, i can make a post with the more sucessfull and low risk tecnics that i had!!Stay well.

[Blacklaser 0]

Thanks DefCrash.sandeep you don't have to convince me, I was merely pointing out that your theory is flawd as, if you go to a math forum or ask your teacher, will be confirmed. I did not imply anything about your mathematical skills. Oh and btw, if anything real life casinos are more random than an online ones for the simple fact that online casions use algorythms (which by definition are not random) to generate the results, any algorythm can at best produce pseudo-random results.

[anwiii 17]

this is to do with making money online through roulettes. if it is not allowed, please delete.
first, find an online roulette casino place, like 888. Then, go to their roulette wheels. This only works if you can see spins without paying, like a free spin or watch someone else bet.
but anywayz, all you do is wait. As the roulette outcome is based on random numbers, the likelyhood of getting consecutives are very low. For example, getting 3/4 consecutive reds is low if it is truly random. So, you spin, and wait untill you get consecutive reds, 2 or 3 depending on how risky you wanna play it. But first, just see that a lot of consecutives do not happen normally, just to make sure. But then, once you see, for example, 3 consecutive reds, the likelyhood that there will be another one is very very low. So, bet on black (not too much) after you see 3 consecutive reds, and you should win. If not, then there have been 4, just keep on going and you should make your money double over and over again.

again, please delete if not acceptable, could not see anywhere saying this could not be posted, but if i cant then fine.

oh boy. i see you got response from this post and even the responses aren't accurate even though they tried very hard. the responses were based on a coin flip, not a roulette wheel as there are more colors than red and black. let's forget about that though. the fact is, is that the odds are the same for any # or color hitting for each individual spin, and you will NEVER beat the odds by trying to come up a system with odds only. but then this theory of your ranks up there with the double up betting system. if you lose, double your bet. if you lose again, double your bet, etc.....until you win and then start back over. nice in theory if there was no minimum or maximum bet allowed. unfortunately there is.

now, i've played roulette off and on(as a fun game only when i have money to blow) and i've seen a consecutive color come up 9 times before(i think that was the most i've seen), but i've also seen a consecutive color come up 3-4 times ALOT.

i think this thread needs to be deleted. it ranks up there with spammers and scammers and in NO WAY do users of this board need to hear a crap system like this EVER. it's sad that it was already left up long enough for poor theories and responses not even based on a roulette wheel and not doing the math for the correct odds.

now if this thread happens to stay up, my advice to ANYONE is not to play the roulette wheel at all. it's ALL based on chance and luck even with good money management. your best bets is craps and blackjack while craps give better odds in the long run unless you know how to count cards. but even better odds, if you can master the games is poker. you play against the players and not the house and all you lose is the raked pots, but ALOT more skill involved than luck and odds that are against you.

now true, there is a law of averages, but you will NEVER be able to predict when the law of averages kick in. so se la vi....i wish good luck to anyone who thinks they can beat the casinos without cheating

[trace-uk 0]

sounds like you got a system. but then again every gambler does and most of them lose money.keep us updated and see if it works

[Blacklaser 0]

oh boy. i see you got response from this post and even the responses aren't accurate even though they tried very hard. the responses were based on a coin flip, not a roulette wheel as there are more colors than red and black.

I used the model of the coin flip for two reasons: Because I'm lazy, wanted to save time, and because sandeep started off with that model, of course the extra color just makes the odds work even less in his favor.

i haven't tried to win any money this way yet, gonna reg at an online casino asap.
if you think about it, if the outcome was truly random, the odds of red would be 0.5 and black would be 0.5 (if u forget about 0 on green).

If you have ever drawn a probability tree, you could work out the following:

But you're absoluetly right, and your resposonse is by far the best in this thread, my respect (even though that is probably not worth a lot).

[sandeep89 0]

heyfirst, thanx defcrash, i thought that it was best to just say that u've tried it and it didnt work. I tried it on some crappy play money roulettes and flash games and that, i know real casinos are more advanced, but i thought that they might work in a similar way. obviously, i was wrong.so, if anyone has ways of beating roulettes etc, please let me know.thanx

[trace-uk 0]

I think the way with the best shot of success to win at gambling is to own your own casino, coz you're probobly still gonna lose to those guys

[giubica 0]

and ur sayin that i did? m8 im takin maths and further maths at college, AND im gettin As, taking 9 hours of maths exams in may, so don't tell me that i cant do maths. Casino's make money in real life cos its not completely random, and im sayin that online ones are...
As i said, if you don't believe me, then to be honest i really don't care, i didnt make these posts that i did to convince you.

If anyone here does believe me, or thinks that its worth a shot, check out some free roulette sites like pogo (not the best as explained before), but try it and see...if it works, good if it doesn't, you won't have lost anything.

Sandeep and all,

I am crazy about roulette, and I played a lot, both on line and in real casinos.
Last week, at Monaco Gold Casino, black came up 12 times in a row, and I kept on betting on red...
Two weeks ago, at the Seneca Casino in Buffalo, red came up 10 times in a row, and I was betting on black...
Check the attached file, this is an actual sequence at Bodog OnLine Casino. This time I made money because whenever a color came up 3 times or more, I bet on that color.
Bottom line, the roulette does not have any memory, each and every result is independent of previous results. Consequently, there is no winning strategy.
Take care.