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This topic is for the Likker Katrina after math. This is what i heard and post earlyier i am posting here to for it has all the info:

First off about this Gas. Gas before the storm was in the low 2 bucks. Now are like almot 4 bucks. CNN was saying sometime next week it will be over 4 bucks!
Now abou this storm, warning if you do not want to read this do not read.

New Orleans, New Orleans as you know is below sea level with three bodies of water around it. With this storm first buildings where being destoryed by this horrible wind. Also the lebes which hold the water from filling the city like a bowl broke, i do not know if you guys know this but the Leves where made for Category 3. Why 3? Make it over protective with 5. Well if they are to ever make the leves they will probably will. Now the city is filling up with this water. What is worst this water holds dead bodies, they barry people above ground there so they are floating, electrical poles making the water electric-thy (spelt wrong), pulted water, and so much more. Now the Super Dome before the storm held about 10,000 ppl. After math of Killer Katrina now 30,000! Wow! Now because the roof has holes in it, nothing working, no food and water, they are moving (currently right now) people to AstroDome in Houston, Texas. This is a good idea but how will they take 30,000 people. Well i am so sad from this. People looting and dieing.
Death toll for New Orleans is believe around 200 and still going up,

Mobile: Moblie did not get eveaculted which is bad. A hotel with 30 ppl collaspe killing people by the wind. Cassions being brought out to the ocean, People trying to go back to normal in there life. It is bad.
Dearth toll estimated 40 ppl.

Mississipi: Mississipi water rage threw towns wiping out loads of homes and such. This did not really hold kills but load of home less. For the homes that did make it. They are now being looted. Very tragic indead.

The Rest: Loads of people are dead, dieing, being looted, homeless, sick, and ect. This is the worst Natual Storm ever in America. The Death Toll is drastically rising. With this america will never be the same again.

Now what President Busch, Former Presidents Clinton and other Busch are also doing the same campaign they did in the Tsunami disaster. Well post more information here for the after math.

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I've been watching CNN this afternoon and listening to speeches by the US Congressional Black Caucus .... the consensus of opinion was that the emergency efforts have been a disgrace, and I have to admit, watching the news items here in the UK, I'm astonished at the apparent inaction of the emergency relief .... it's like watching the results of a natural disaster in the third world .... I just wondered how ordinary Americans were feeling about the aftermath of Katrina ....


the suggestions by the Black Caucus representitives were that large multinational corporations should be offering mega amounts of aid .... ie, airlines, hotels, grocery stores, cruiselines etc .... and that the people affected should and most definately could be reabsorbed into the rest of America if these corporations together with government bodies got their act together .... that those affected could be moved, (air-lifted), from the states of Louisiana, Alabama, Missisippi etc and transported all over America and given housing, schooling, clothing etc in a short space of time .... if companies would only stop thinking of their profits and put their vast resources at the disposal of those who are in desperate need of them ....


and this is kinda what I expected to happen in the richest country in the world .... we are talking about THE leading superpower here .... and these are American citizens in need of help ....


so what's going on? .... I was shocked that within the first few days, the government seemed to prioritise the protection of material possesions over the rescue of it's own citizens .... shoot to kill policies for looting? ....


people are desperate for goodness sake .... of course you're gonna get looting .... but shoot to kill? .... come on


my heart goes out to all those affected and wonder what we here in Britain could do to help? .... cause things don't seem to be moving forward very quickly over there .... and we here in Britain do have a bit of an affection for you yanks ....


it's heart breaking to see little kids, the elderly and the sick sitting in the blazing heat without basic essentials like water, shelter, medicines .... it must be an absolute nightmare for them ....


I heard of an incident in one state where their were 3 Walmarts that had refused to honour Salvation Army food vouchers, as they only accepted Red Cross food vouchers .... why are these stores not giving out food and water for FREE! ???....


it's mystifying .... and very, very sad!


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This is what I heard:

New Orleans shelters to be evacuatedFloodwaters rising, devastation widespread in Katrina's wake

Wednesday, August 31, 2005; Posted: 1:01 a.m. EDT (05:01 GMT)

Two children are hoisted into a Coast Guard rescue helicopter from the roof of their home in New Orleans.

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Manage Alerts | What Is This? NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- New Orleans resembled a war zone more than a modern American metropolis Tuesday, as Gulf Coast communities struggled to deal with the devastating aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

Deteriorating conditions in New Orleans will force authorities to evacuate the thousands of people at city shelters, including the Louisiana Superdome, where a policeman told CNN unrest was escalating.

The officer expressed concern that the situation could worsen overnight after three shootings, looting and a number of attempted carjackings during the afternoon. (See video of the looting -- 1:25)

Officials could not yet provide accurate estimates for fatalities or time needed for recovery in the area and are focusing, instead, on widespread search-and-rescue operations.

The death toll from the storm so far is estimated at 70 -- mostly in Mississippi. Officials stressed that the number is uncertain and likely to be much higher. (See aerial video of the aftermath -- 3:02)

"A lot of people lost their lives, and we still don't have any idea [how many], because the focus continues to be on rescuing those who have survived," Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco told reporters Tuesday.

Elsewhere along the Gulf Coast, authorities used boats and helicopters to reach stranded residents and search for survivors.

The storm ripped ashore in Louisiana on Monday morning with winds topping 140 mph before scourging Mississippi and Alabama.

The U.S. Coast Guard said its crews assisted in the rescue Monday of about 1,200 people stranded by high water in the New Orleans area, and thousands more were rescued Tuesday morning.

Waters rising in New Orleans
New Orleans was left with no power, no drinking water, dwindling food supplies, widespread looting, smoke rising on the horizon and the sounds of gunfire. At least one large building was ablaze Tuesday. (Full story)

Mayor Ray Nagin told CNN that at least 30 buildings had collapsed, but that no attempt had been made to determine a death toll.

"There are dead bodies floating in some of the water," Nagin said. "The rescuers would basically push them aside as they were trying to save individuals."

Nagin said that as of late Tuesday "a significant amount of water" is flowing into the bowl-shaped city and sections of the city now dry could be under 9 or 10 feet of water within hours.

"The bowl is filling up," he said.

Frustration was also rising among people who now find themselves refugees in their own city.

Thousands of people were being housed in the Louisiana Superdome, where toilets were overflowing and there was no air conditioning to provide relief from 90-degree heat.

Nagin estimated the number of people in the Superdome at between 12,000 and 15,000 people as of late Tuesday. He said they could be there for a week unless evacuated sooner.

Blanco said officials are making plans to evacuate people from the Superdome and other shelters, but she did not say when that might happen or where they might be taken.

The city's main public hospital, Charity Hospital, was no longer functioning and was being evacuated, Blanco said.

Also under way was the evacuation of more than 1,000 people from Tulane University Hospital with the help of the U.S. military, hospital spokeswoman Karen Troyer Caraway said.

"It's an unbelievable situation," she said. "We're completely surrounded by water. There's looting going on in the streets around the hospital."

Hundreds of people were looting businesses downtown, throwing rocks through store windows and hauling away goods.

National Guard troops moved into the downtown business district, and state police squads backed by SWAT teams were sent in to scatter looters and restore order, authorities said late Tuesday.

Nagin told Mississippi television station WAPT a police officer was shot and wounded when he surprised a looter Tuesday, but the officer was expected to recover.

The biggest problem facing authorities, they said, was an inability to communicate.

Nearly all of the parishes in the New Orleans area -- Orleans, St. John the Baptist, Plaquemines, St. Tammany and Jefferson -- have curfews in place.

Inmates from a flooded parish jail were relocated to a freeway on-ramp, where they sat out in the sun, under the watch of armed officers.

Nagin said 80 percent of the city was under water, which was 20 feet deep in some places. (See video of knee-deep and rising water in the French Quarter -- 1:19)

Water from Lake Pontchartrain was pouring into the downtown area from a levee breach, rising steadily throughout the day. (Map)

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers reported two major breaches in the levee system that protects New Orleans, much of which lies below sea level.

Authorities warned that efforts to limit the flooding have been unsuccessful, and that residents may not be able to return home for a month.

"The Corps Of Engineers has attempted to fix the situation under emergency conditions," Blanco told CNN. "They're not the best conditions, and probably too little, too late."

Getting anything into New Orleans will be difficult because of the damage to two bridge spans seven miles long that carry Interstate 10 over Lake Pontchartrain, linking the city to points east.

"This is a tragedy of great proportions, greater than any we've see in our lifetimes," Blanco said. "We know many lives have been lost."

The governor also said it was "impossible to even begin to estimate" how long it will take to restore power and drinking water in New Orleans.

Death toll rising in Mississippi
Katrina has inflicted more damage to Mississippi beach towns than did Hurricane Camille, and its death toll is likely to be higher, the state's governor said Tuesday. (Full story)

Camille killed 143 people when it struck the state's coastal counties in 1969 and a total of 256 after it swept inland.

"There are structures after structures that survived Camille with minor damage that are not there any more," Gov. Haley Barbour told reporters in Jackson.

Katrina destroyed "every one" of the casinos that raked in $500,000 per day in revenues to state coffers, Barbour said after a helicopter tour of the affected areas.

"There were 10- and 20-block areas where there was nothing -- not one home standing," he said.

Barbour would not give a confirmed death toll, but said it was likely to be higher than previous reports of 50 to 80 dead.

Jason Green of the Harrison County Coroner's Office said funeral homes in Gulfport had received 26 bodies since the storm passed Monday.

In the small town of Bay St. Louis, search and rescue crews put paint marks on homes known to contain bodies, because there weren't enough refrigerated trucks to remove the corpses.

In Biloxi, an employee of the city's Grand Casino was awed by the extent of the damage.

"I was a senior in high school when Hurricane Camille hit, in 1969, and I have never seen destruction of this magnitude," said Scott Richmond.

Part of the city's sea wall was washed away, and nearly every downtown building had extensive damage to its first level.

State emergency management officials said 80 percent of the state's residents had no power.

In Biloxi, a 25-foot swell of water crashed in from the Gulf of Mexico Monday and inundated structures there.

Up to 30 people are believed to have been killed when an apartment complex on the beach collapsed in the storm.

Distraught resident Harvey Jackson told a local television station about losing his wife in the floodwater as they stood on their roof. (Watch the video report of a husband whose wife slipped from his grip -- 1:07 )

"I held her hand as tight as I could and she told me, 'You can't hold me.' She said 'Take care of the kids and the grandkids,' " he sobbed. (Victims left with nothing)

Streets and homes were flooded as far as 6 miles inland from the beach, and looting was reported in Biloxi and in Gulfport, officials said.

Other developments
In Mobile, Alabama, the storm pushed water from Mobile Bay into downtown, submerging large sections of the city, and officials imposed a dusk-to-dawn curfew. (Full story)

The impact of Katrina on U.S. oil production and refinery capabilities may be worse than initial reports estimated and could lead to a national gas crisis in the short-term, analysts warned Tuesday. (Full story)

President Bush was returning to Washington two days ahead of schedule to help oversee Hurricane Katrina recovery efforts, the White House announced. He will fly Friday to Louisiana to tour parishes ravaged by Hurricane Katrina, U.S. Sen. Mary Landrieu said. (Full story)

The U.S. military Tuesday started to move ships and helicopters to the region at the request of the Federal Emergency Management Agency to aid in rescue and medical needs, military officials said. (Full story)

Katrina was downgraded to a tropical depression Tuesday. As of the 11 p.m. ET update from the National Hurricane Center, the storm was pushing through the Ohio River Valley, causing flood watches in several states.

CNN's Anderson Cooper, Kathleen Koch, David Mattingly, Jeanne Meserve, Miles O'Brien, Jim Spellman, Gary Tuchman and John Zarrella contributed to this report.

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its going to take years for new orleans to recover and i wanted to hit up a mardi gras too. :) maybe next time.

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What happened in New Orleans was very sad. I hope that they rebuild New Orleans somewhere else if they can so that way this never happens again. The people who are helping save the people over there are the real heros and should get a bonus for their efforts.

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I want to ask something, wasn't the Government of the USA slow to act? Was there enough measures taken to minimize the damage during the storm AND after the storm? It was known that the storm was going to hit New Orleans from days before, and I think the guys in charge have a lot to account for.

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Your right alperuzi Bush was very slow to act, most think it's because Louisiana is the poorest area in America, and is mostly comprised of African Americans, and frankly I agree one-hundred percent.


There really needs to be more support from the federal government, there has been an amazing level of support from the Red Cross, the Salvation Army, and other orginazations, almost everyone one of them done by private/ non-governmental orginizations.


One thing I'm apaulled by is the fact of how quickly Bush reacted to the Tsunami, but then when tragedies with equal magnitude or possibly more happens to his own country it takes him almost five full days to even take a survey of the damage. He has already signed 10 Billion dollars for relief efforts, but although I'm not posotive, I am fairly sure that the damage costs alone where matching up to, or higher than that of Hurricane Andrew a few years ago which costed nearly five times as much as that.


One thing I'm really not as upset about as others are is the fact that there has been no international support. I blame Bush for this too, when he was asked about it he said

Well I haven't asked anyone yet.

Alot of people are angry at other countries, and have a theory that they have not helped because they are all waiting for America to trip, metaphorically speaking. One of the first things alot of countires do that they might not even realise is that when a disaster happens to them is ask the US for money. In the tsunami I don't know if money was asked for, but I know more was given than what was given for Hurricane Katrina, and alot of people over-seas called America cheap for only giving 'x' amount of billions of dollars, while I think this story has some merit I am too angry with Bush to chose that over my theory right now.


Another thing alot of people want to know is where is the Army? There are not a good amount of Army units placed in Louisiana right now, which only helps the looters and those trying to steal ambulances by shooting the ones driving them. The army is of course in Iraq, when they could at least be looking for Osama Bin Ladden which I believe Bush doesn't care at all about. He's spent hundreds of billions finishing daddy's war, but now he can spend more then a fraction of the amount needed to restore peace and utilities like gas and electricity to one of Americas large cities that is a center for anything sent through boats. Before the hurrican gas around here was almost 3.50 dollars a gallon, now I've seen it as high as 4-6 dollars a gallon.


Then there is the levvy that broke which if there is any hope of getting rid of the flood water that will need to be fixed, other wise whenever any water dries up (after weeks and weeks) the tide will just bring in gallons more. They really need to get some major focus on filling that levvy with the gravel bags, and then maybe building one behind it so they can try to actually fix the levvy and rebuild it somehow.

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This still hasn't really hit home for me yet, it feels as if it occured in a third world country. I don't know why, but I thought that New Orleans had been completely evacuated and now I'm hearing that they're fearing thousands dead. Its quite sad to think of all the elderly, teens, children, adults, and animals swept away in the tide and never to be seen again, dead or alive.I was watching a special on TV a couple days ago when I saw a father and his two kids. He had to decide whether to save his wife or his children. His wife volunteered to leave, and as she did, she was swept away by the water and the family presumes her dead. Thinking off all the torn families and dead bodies still unidentified makes me feel uneasy. There is still a ray of hope for the families that their loved ones may have survived.And as for the gas prices, I too have heard that they're going to fly up to around $4 a gallon soon and I've been hearing that some are expecting or predicting that they'll be at around $5 by Christmas Time 2005. I can only hope that the thefts and murders over gas can be stopped, but there still is a huge supply and demand. The price of living is going to go up with the gasoline prices.The hurricane sure has caused a major stir, that's for sure.

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This still hasn't really hit home for me yet, it feels as if it occured in a third world country.

I am not an American, but I think the complete chaos in New Orleans bring really bad impression across the globe. It is even worst then the third world. I wonder why there are so many looters, rapists and murderers on the street in such an affluent country. And the extremely inefficient government is really like those in South East Asia after the tsunami. A powerful earthquake hit Japan some years ago in Kobe and Osaka, bringing devastation the Kansai area. But there was absolutely no lootings and robbing, not to speak of murders and rapes. It is the quality of people that matters. The recent chaos in Gulf Coast just show how weak the US in when improving the quality of its people. The educators must take part of the blame for this.

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