Florisjuh 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2005 The european commision seems to made a plan to log all internet activity by inhabtants of the european union, this means if you live in europe you would have zero privacy about what you are doing on the internet!!! The governement will know everything about:- Information stored on providers and web sites- Games you play- Websites you visitAnd much more! Luckily for us, a petition has started to STOP these plans from happening! Sign it at:https://www.xs4all.nl/ (More information about "Data Retention" there too)Lower Right Hand corner on your screen! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RGPHNX 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2005 Hi Florisjuh,Couldn't agree with you more. Keep the gov't(s) out of our private lives !!!The US gov't is (has) aready moved in this direction with programs like Carnivore" etc. for "monitoring" (ie. snooping) on the citizens. The latest step taken was on July 05, 2005 when they decided to NOT to go thru with the planned relinquishing of control of the DNS core computer internet servers (ie. the ICAN servers). Control who get "permission" to have a website (or have it shut down) and you can censor what's said on the web. You can read all about it at http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/ (an article) or do a search on wikipedia for "ICAN".Heads up people !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyguy 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2005 Oh my God, well, I've certaintly signed the petition!I am a very private person and I do not want the government sneeking around my business, it would be so pathetic.Yes, it could possibly help stop all these phedofiles and the child pornography, but most people don't do that kinda stuff, they use their computer for entertainment and other stuff.I'm against it completely! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bartolo 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2005 Of course not! I have signed the petition too.This is ridiculous Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bureX 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2005 Same here!This is not a cure for terrorism! Even if they monitor ALL of my activities on the internet, they will not accomplish anything, but will invade my privacy!Probably every terrorist is not THAT stupid to send plain text e-mails!(their e-mails are probably well encrypted, hidden inside attachments or written in some sort of a "code language") Or to communicate in any other insecure way!Getting the source of recent DoS attacks, viruses etc.? No way! Most DoS attacks are caused by malicious programs that are on another person's computer! (and that person doesn't know if it's even there) Viruses spread from an unknown source through innocent people?s computers unnoticed! Solution? Give the man a heart attack by bashing his front door open and point a gun at his face until he "surrenders peacefully" because ?he broke the law??So, what are they trying to prove? That I ordered a pizza through the internet? That I am using windows update? That I'm currently downloading a Linux distribution?So what?"Ehm... Excuse me sir, but you recently checked your e-mail through GMail. GMail is a free to use e-mail service, you wouldn't happen to be a terrorist now, would you?""Sir, this is your 2nd order of pizza this week! You should know better than to eat junk food! May I recommend snacking on a carrot next time when you get 'the munchies'?"What's next!? Well, I don't want to find out! I signed the petition as well! I sure hope that many people do the same! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crapoartworks 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2005 (edited) Indeed. I agree that the governments should not be invading privacy, let alone, every moment on the internet, there are computers trying to connect to your computer. What for? To maybe place or retrieve cookies in your computer? To see what websites you been to? What files and programs you have on your computer?I wouldn't want the government to know what websites I been to because it isn't really their business. They don't need to know that. Notice from BuffaloHELP: Edited as per request. Edited August 28, 2005 by BuffaloHELP (see edit history) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontmaimyourself 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2005 I signed the petition, but I fear it may not make much of a difference, but anyway thats not the point, the point is that this is clearly a breach of human rights and privacy, and no matter who it is proposing this it is still not the answer, I personally don't think it would even help to catch anyone doing anything, I mean 450 million people is a hell of a lot of people. But apart from that it is just not right so I signed the patition against it, and I hope it goes welland they see that they cant monitor (spy) on people. But hey at least they told us first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crapoartworks 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2005 Now, I know of one thing about petitions. They rarely work. I mean, I know of someone who started a petition to remove some dude's website. Now this website contained, well, his own opinions on certain topics, his own free speech. I guess people didn't like what he had to say and well, started a petiton and got thousands of signatures on it. Even the dude they were protesting signed it. Is his website still up? Yes. Does the petiton still exist? Yes. Did anything ever change or happen to his website? Nope.I myself could even start a petiton... say, to remove george bush from office. Would I get thousands of signatures? You bet. Would george bush ever get removed? Nope.I shall sign this petition but I am unsure if it may do anything... ... but we sure can try! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
machinamedia 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2005 This must be stopped... I just completed signing the petition. All europeans should do the same... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wariorpk 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2005 I have one thing to say and that is keep your paws away from my stuff. I live in the United States so this shouldn't be a problem yet but I do not want this to happen to anyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PinQ 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2005 why would they do that? they always wanna kwow what you are doing on the internet.and even if they knew what you were doing on the net. what could they do with it.and then you have also the privacy statement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Domthedude001 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2005 The european commision seems to made a plan...I doubt this is possible... Of course Google can see what you search and websites can see where your live... but the only way the European Goverment can see what your doing on the internet is if your ISP lets them, I doubt they can see this information.... However, I agree that it is a invasion of privacy and glad i live i in the US Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reatum 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2005 I'm sure that regardless of what we say, the elite will do what they want. I don't know how many people are aware, but google tracks every search you make with a personalized cookie just for your computer, this is very similar in that it is specific to your computer, and if you install things like the google toolbar, or google desktop, or anything, they have even more reach into your personal info. I for one don't think anybody, gov't or corporate should be snooping and logging my www whereabouts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grnjd 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2005 that is ridiculous! Is that even legal? Its an invasion of our privacy and its just wrong to do that. Its unethical, i though most of europe is a republic or democrated government, wonder what happened Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reatum 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2005 that is ridiculous! Is that even legal? Its an invasion of our privacy and its just wrong to do that. Its unethical, i though most of europe is a republic or democrated government, wonder what happened 192578[/snapback] The gov'ts of the 1st world are more concerned with control than they are privacy. There are more than 4.2 million closed circuit television cameras in Great Britain. London has more cameras than any other city in the world............. EPIC helped develop the ABA recommendations and the video surveillance guidelines for Washington, D.C. But the reality is that mass surveillance technology is far outpacing legal protections. "Smart" camera systems may soon match individual images against actual identity. Backscatter X-ray will reveal individuals as if they were naked. The above article is one of thousands which tell a tale of stripped down privacy rights, and the problems we as citizens of the countries bringing the NWO to fruition have to face. The horror of it all is that many people across the globe either no nothing of it, or don't think twice when they hear what is happening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites