I'm new in here, but I must have missed something, because it seemed to me that LightMage was totally within the scope of the forum topic. Hence, I didn't understand your opening comment to start a new thread instead of "hijacking" this one. Everything he said seemed to apply to astral projection or OBE even if his main issue is reconciling the differences arising between science and mysticism. A seeker must address these issues of mental obstacles and it appeared to me that this was all lightMage was doing. I just feel that if you really want to invite dialog about this mysterious topic, it is unfruitful to run off anyone struggling to grapple with it.