Why do people hate Vista? If you can't afford it than doesnt mean it's bad! And if they are trying to give you more security, remember that you were the ones who complained about XP not being secure enough... Let's imagine them including an anti-virus with Vista, people would say they are trying to start a monopoly... I failed to see why do everyone hate Microsoft, maybe someone here can enlighten me?As for the SP, I'm not really interested... When they fix something they are going to break something else, like it or go get yourself a *nix OS, they are perfectly good, but they are free, if you want to spend money you can buy some disto's.Now some ranting: DX10.1 sucks! Microsoft you should be able to do a better job, cause not everyone will want to get a new GPU...