Anil Rao

Is it just me ? I see very few Java Hosting Providers compared to the ones with ASP and PHP. Agreed Java is the first choice in upscale environments, however being open and free, I thought I would bump into many cost friendly Java Hosting providers, but in vein. It seems Microsoft still rules in low end market. What should we look for from a Java Hosting Service Provider ? I have listed my priorities in descending order. Please comment. 1) Look at the file storage and band width requirement. 20 MB disk space is decent enough size to start with. Band Widths provided by most of the providers are within adequate level, so it is not a big issue. 2) Decide on the format of your web site URL. Eg. MySite.Provider.Com or Provider.com/MySite or MySite.com . It is infact not a big deal to move from one provider to another once your website traffic increases. Hence decide on the duration for which you sign up with the provider if you choose one of the first two forms of URL. First two forms are normally from Free Service Providers. 3) Free DB - MySQL / MS SQL or Oracle 4) Shared / Dedicated App Servers : Dedicated app server will give you more flexibility in updating the web site. 5) Statistics / Backup facility / Log file access - Statistical report help us to see how a website is improving on its usage. Backup will help us save data built up in the database. 6) File upload options : FTP / Web based 7) Free DNS support - Few Providers offer free domain registration that do not expire until you move away from that provider8) Multiple domain support - Many ASP.NET hosts provide directory mapping to support different web domains. An equilent in Java world will be a big add on for us to cut on $ spending. This will also help us in centralized website management. 9) PHP / Perl coverage - we can use any available modules this way even though integrating Java with these technologies (session management) is a challenge

IMO every religion is a school of thought which was put together by great personalities for a better living. Down the line religions have been mis handled by followers to give it a bad image, just like the river Ganges from her birth to end taking all the garbage downstream. There is a belief that Jesus Christ after resurrection lived in Pehal Gaun in the northern slopes of India (Even Cleopatra chose India as safe heaven for her son). When he heard the messengers of Christianity and their morphed preaching at that place it heart him more than the pain he underwent earlier. (Did you guys check the recent article on a deciphering which mentions that Jesus planned his own crucifiction with the help of his follower "Judas" ?) So I don't know where this idea comes from that to be a Hindu you should be born in a Hindu family. Anyone can be a Hindu or anyone being what he is (Christian or Muslim) can learn about Hinduism and follow the preaching in full or part or none. After all it is a school of thought about how to lead our lives. And I think so is every religion not withstanding what the mercenaries of the religion preach us to believe. I have the same hatred towards castism in Hinduism. That some one not born as a Brahmin can't be a Brahmin. Why not ? If a person born as a Brahmin can eat meat and be something else why can't it be the other way round. Why should preachers of the religion play god and say who is what ? I hail from a southern city called Udupi, the name many of you know for its delicacies. It also happens to be the birth place of Dwaitha school of thought (Soul and God are different at any point of time). The Krishna Matt there was into a controversy recently with backward cast folks demanding Pooja honors. The episode might have lost it temper, but I ask, if someone can pronounce the Shlokas the way it is expected to be, then why not ? Isn't this the fundamental aspect of Democratic Society ? Why should we be partial ? I agree with Mahatma on many things and strongly so when it comes to division of society based on cast. And the sad part is no one is observing the job tied to his cast these days in India still some of them are proud of the cast they represent. - Anil

Opethian Don't compare Hollywood with Bollywood products. Worlds best come and join hands to make a hollywood product. Look at the actors most of them are from Australia / New Zealand we need to import the talent here as well. Bollywood projects are based more on relationship so from a materialistic frameset they look boring. Plus India did not have the concept of releasing Music Albums, it was a package deal in Movies to see a script and an album. Now things are changing though. Show a hollywood movie to an Indian Villager and he would laugh at you and say first show me a Allien from a different planet before you make these fantasy movies. It is just a frame of mind ! Coming to the stereo type movies... Spielberg makes a Jaws, you get 10s of them later on. He makes ET, there u go you get a bunch of alien movies following it. I have been watching Hollywood movies for quite some time now and the truth of the matter is it is boring day by day. There is nothing new. It was a shame that you brought in such a silly sub topic when people were discussing about something in depth and brain storming. - Anil

The opposition camp for Aryan Invasion theory tries to spread the idea that Aryan Society was a resident of India and Indian soil is the breeding ground for Aryan Race. I want to give a twist to it and say that Vedic culture is a resident of India, and Aryans might have been immigrants or fellow locals who mixed with the Vedic Society and helped in the advancement of Vedic culture.Before going any further let us consider the fact that Adam and Eve were from Africa and the human race later moved into India, perhaps witnessed by the creation of Himalayas after a land mass from Africa hitting Chinese territory! The age of human race in a particular area is defined by the diversity of genes in an area according to a recent study. Based on this Africa is most diverse, then comes India and then Europe. That is good enough evidence to illustrate the spread of man kind. The morphing of ice age into current climate supports this pattern of spread in human race as described by Captain Ron. This clearly helps us understand that there was a society in India when a cult of humans invaded Indus civilization, if it ever happened.Towards the end in the main article in this thread there are lots of pointers mentioning how great the Indic culture is. However great a culture is, it does not mean that culture is old. For example consider the Industrial Revolution that happened in Europe. Like forest fire it has placed Asia and Africa behind in technology, not withstanding who set the foot first on a continent. So the sophistication of a culture is not a true measure for its age, especially when we are talking on the lines of "YUGS".I will soon post some read from an internet site here. According to that site there is a language that is similar to Tamil, the virgin Dravidian language, near Iran. Considering the Indus Civilization was close to Iran we can assume that Dravidians were indeed the ones who formed this civilization. In Tamil Nadu today a section of the crowd worships Ravana and burns effigies of Rama. They claim Ramayana was indeed a fight between Dravidians and Aryans. Ravana, the follower of Shiva had Pushpaka Vimana for commute. These facts (Tamil culture was in existence near Indus valley and that Dravidians and Aryans had common Gods) inclines us to think that Dravidian culture might have been sophisticated which resided by the Indus river. ( Is it genuine the picture we see from NASA showing a sunken bridge connecting India and Srilanka ? )Coming to the color of the skin, Rama and Krishna from Treta and Dwapara Yugs are said to be dark in color. So Aryans might have been totally dark or had few with fair skin who acknowledged Rama and Krishna as not great personalities but Gods. However they were not a cult of white colored folks. It is so exciting to point the fact that today in India we don't differentiate between colors, even though it happens in the modern west, well within the cover of equality for all. In fact according to our school books this was the case during Aryan-Dravidian mix, but who knows whether early Aryans were fair or dark in complexion? Aryans might have invaded Vedic Society, hated and fought with the Dravidians in the early years. But soon they mingled with Dravidians and got married with them. It is again not important that who is the mighty here. Afghanis invaded India time and again with success in relatively recent past. If a society is soft and inclined more towards peace and literature, it becomes a sitting duck for someone who only knows how to move a sword.The point to note here is that there is no true Aryan or Dravidian in India to date. Everyone is a mix of the two or worst case it is the Dravidians who gave birth to an Aryan race. The greatness actually lies in a land which has nurtured a great culture. That is why the greater India has been referred to as "Karma Bhumi", the land of good deeds. The blood less freedom struggle against the kingdom where son never settles down started in this "Karma Bhumi", no where else.- Anil

I agree with you folks that the person opting for such a setup has to be tech savy. However if you are writing a web app that is not in plain old HTML, one is expected to be technical anyway. So that is not a draw back plus you get the added advantage of setting up your own environment. One should not do too much customization because that will cause problems once you think of moving to a hosted site. Think in terms of PHP or J2EE modules only, nothing outside.The main two draw backs I see is not having a domain name (need to settle for a subdomain name) plus the upload time. The DSL upload mentioned above seems real bad. My DSL provider gives upload speed of 384 to 512 Kbps. Plus the other thing to note is that cheap hosting services have a monthly bandwidth usage limit which u don't have with home ISP.This is ideal for folks who r toying with an idea of a website and want to share it with friends around without making significant investment. Also if u r planning on demoing your work you can use this as a back up. Plus you can access resources on home computer from anywhere.Another advantage is that if you haven't decided on ur web site name yet, u can pick up something for free for subdomain name and think of a real domain name for ur baby later on.Once u need more bandwidth and reliability who is going to stop you from moving onto a real hosting service ?Another reason why I had suggested this option is because I am a Java guy and I find very few Java hosting services around which are cost effective. Java is used mainly in the high end.Hence such a low cost setup back home will help people use their own App Server when development changes are more in number.To keep away the hackers u can use personal firewalls. Use Microsoft firewall or Sygate Personall firewall.- Anil

I recently bumped into a friend of mine who is hosting his web site from home. And he does not have a static IP at home !!! How does this work 1) You take a dynamic IP service at home (DSL / Cable / Forget Dial up). Set up a Computer to run all the time hosting your web application. What a beauty, you can play around with your site any way you wish ! 2) Sign up with a Dynamic DNS service provider who normally give the service for free. For example (http://dyn.com/dns/) 3) Choose a domain name from DNS provider and then attach your subdomain name to it. For example you can choose the domain homeip.net and attach MySite subdomain to it. So your website address becomes MySite.HomeIP.net . (I don't know whether you can have dynamic IP for a domain name) 4) Install a third party IP address updater tool on your PC and keep it running (Example http://dyn.com/apps/update-client-faqs/). Vila, you have your own web site. Plus if you have FTP and other ports enabled on your home computer you can use those services too. - Anil

Is it just me ? I see very few Java Hosting Providers compared to the ones with ASP and PHP. Agreed Java is the first choice in upscale environments, however being open and free, I thought I would bump into many cost friendly Java Hosting providers, but in vein. It seems Microsoft still rules in low end market. What should we look for from a Java Hosting Service Provider ? I have listed my priorities in descending order. Please comment. 1) Look at the file storage and band width requirement. 20 MB disk space is decent enough size to start with. Band Widths provided by most of the providers are within adequate level, so it is not a big issue. 2) Decide on the format of your web site URL. Eg. MySite.Provider.Com or Provider.com/MySite or MySite.com . It is infact not a big deal to move from one provider to another once your website traffic increases. Hence decide on the duration for which you sign up with the provider if you choose one of the first two forms of URL. First two forms are normally from Free Service Providers. 3) Free DB - MySQL / MS SQL or Oracle 4) Shared / Dedicated App Servers : Dedicated app server will give you more flexibility in updating the web site. 5) Statistics / Backup facility / Log file access - Statistical report help us to see how a website is improving on its usage. Backup will help us save data built up in the database. 6) File upload options : FTP / Web based 7) Free DNS support - Few Providers offer free domain registration that do not expire until you move away from that provider 8) Multiple domain support - Many ASP.NET hosts provide directory mapping to support different web domains. An equilent in Java world will be a big add on for us to cut on $ spending. This will also help us in centralized website management. 9) PHP / Perl coverage - we can use any available modules this way even though integrating Java with these technologies (session management) is a challenge