Come on you guys dont you Ipods suck there very small in size and memory. And the battery runs out in 17 months and it costs about the same amount of money to get a new battery as when you bought the Ipod. My friend has a creative labs player it is really nice it has 40 GB of space and a very long battery life time like 4 years or something he also got a 2 year warranty on it too. Plus the battery is removable and the battery only costs $40-$50.