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mahesh2k

Text link ads are very less in the market and many times some members don't approach them because of fear of search engine. For example, google which is these days acting like government on moral policing on what is and what is not good for web and sites. So that is the reason many text link ad networks are not doing good on these sites. I have seen that there are some niche sites which don't do good with CPM and adsense based sells. In such cases it is better to sell text ads through them. There are some CPM based program as well that goes on every type of site but you need to be focused publisher in order to get accepted by those networks. I prefer to use text link ads when i face such issues these days. I use text link ads on sites where other ad networks don't perform good or have no way of performing good. You can also consider rotating text link ads network in such case. So i found adjungle while looking for such text ad networks which are niche focused.Adjungle is text ad network that accepts niche market. You'll find some advertisers who are seeking link presence on other site. You'll find that terms are based on publishers criteria and networks criteria. There are both good and bad sides of this. Just make sure that you don't get abused through such network if any advertiser asks for low rate and takes advantage. I can't reveal much information about type of site and the advertiser as it'll not do me any good. But you can expect some decent payment through such network.


Ahsaniqbalkmc

These days I am looking to sell some adspace to get more out of my website. The website traffic is not that high to attract websites on individual basis so I always keep my eyes open for posts like this one.I checked out the adjungle website. Unfortunately, the first impression I got was not very good. The website design was not very attractive. It looked rather unprofessional. Then I tried to see some reviews of the program before starting business with them. I searched on google for their reviews and find a lot of places where the program was reviewed. Again, Unfortunately, the reviews were not very good. Everywhere people have written that it is better to do business with other high-end advertisers than small ones like adjungle. I couldn't find any good reviews about them.Still I went through the registration process. I have registered myself but I haven't added the code to my website yet. I want to spend some more time on doing some research about the program.The best way to know more about the program is obviously to ask from you, who has recommended this program. Have you tried this program? How did it work out for you?Most importantly, who do you recommend this program if it sort of violates the google TOS. I don't know whether it actually violates the terms or not; because I was unable to pull enough information on that. But after reading your post, I can get a guess about it being a gray stuff. So can you please provide some more information on this.


mahesh2k

If you're going to work acccording google government then i cant suggest link selling or ad selling at all. You have to wait for the traffic to pile up upto 50,000 per day in order to get accepted to buysellads.com or similar other sites. There are some other networks which offer selling of ad spaces or links, but none of them are in medical domain. So i don't know if there are advertisers to be targeting anywhere. Most of the reviews are bad for adjungle becasue many high traffic sites who are in between BSA network and others requirement have no other network to join. So if they reviewed the adjungle for the low price then i can't understand why they bothered with it to begin with. I mean adjungle is low payer but you're not risking much. You should only use subdomain blogs or similar other small properties on their network. That is what i'm doing. That way if anything damaging happens then surely i won't be affected. What type of damage ? anything from site sandbox to total penalty which they can give randomly to any site anytime based on their mood. Google considers itself as internet police and thinks link buying is bad, even though google adwords and adsense itself is link selling and there are many sites selling links on each others site everyday. So buying or selling link is black hat business, not even gray. But considering the google panda update which changes every 3 weeks, ranking on google hardly matters. You're at front page for one day and next day you're not, also personal search makes it hard for you to be on front page for all people. You can be on page 3 for me and page 1 for another person. So if this is the way thing are going then it hardly matters if you're selling links or selling ad banners. Linkworth is one more network which has more benefits for publishers. I have seen that many publishers getting better results using this network. This network basically puts your site into marketplace and then advertisers bid for the amount. Same like any other ad network. Then you have to accept the offer of higher bidder. I may review this ad network in another thread because it deserves the attention for those who are interested in link selling or buying. But issues are there like more traffic is requirement, they also consider alexa rank. I don't know why fake alexa ranking is important, same with PR. But they have these criteria and if you are into adjungle and want to try links on main domain then try linkworth.


Ahsaniqbalkmc

If you're going to work acccording google government then i cant suggest link selling or ad selling at all. You have to wait for the traffic to pile up upto 50,000 per day in order to get accepted to buysellads.com or similar other sites. There are some other networks which offer selling of ad spaces or links, but none of them are in medical domain. So i don't know if there are advertisers to be targeting anywhere.

Like it or not, you have to deal with google. Yes, you can't say that GOOGLE IS INTERNET but for a webmaster, life is very hard without the good grace of google.Everyone has reservations about the privacy issues and other SERP issues at google but you can't stop doing business with them, unless you are someone like Mark Zuckerberg.

On most occasions, there is more talk than action. Everyone knows that buying and selling links occur often. In fact it occurs in the open. Programs like TEXTLINKADS are doing pretty well making good money. And google can't say that they are unaware of buysellads.com. So you are right that it depends on their mood. When they feel like punishing someone, they do it and make many justifications for it.

But still, most webmasters, who depend solely on traffic from google, have to stay safe. They won't like to get involved in something which potentially can cause them loose their traffic from google. They won't care about few extra bucks they can make from selling text links if these extra bucks threat their relation with google. I am not protecting google here. In fact I am raising a point which is against google. Because of their policy, many webmasters cannot do what is perfectly legal for most. So yes google creates problems but it also blesses you with traffic.

I said earlier, most webmasters including me will try to stay away from stuff that can frown Big G. But this doesn't mean that we would stop looking for new ways of monetization. But again, we have to stay safe because we largely depend on Google.

Most of the reviews are bad for adjungle becasue many high traffic sites who are in between BSA network and others requirement have no other network to join. So if they reviewed the adjungle for the low price then i can't understand why they bothered with it to begin with. I mean adjungle is low payer but you're not risking much. You should only use subdomain blogs or similar other small properties on their network. That is what i'm doing. That way if anything damaging happens then surely i won't be affected.

It seems logical but I have an argument here. You said that you would rather add adjungle ads on your subdomain sites. My point is that for any type of advertisement to work well, the content of the website should be good. If this is true then the next question is that how many good sites (whether TLDs or subdomains) I can develop in a given period of time. Plus if I have put a good amount of effort in something, why wouldn't I go for the best possible way of monetization?

But if you are talking about creating lots of automatic submission (wp-robot powered), subdomain blogs and putting adjungle adverts on it, then probably someone would listen to you.

What type of damage ? anything from site sandbox to total penalty which they can give randomly to any site anytime based on their mood. Google considers itself as internet police and thinks link buying is bad, even though google adwords and adsense itself is link selling and there are many sites selling links on each others site everyday. So buying or selling link is black hat business, not even gray. But considering the google panda update which changes every 3 weeks, ranking on google hardly matters. You're at front page for one day and next day you're not, also personal search makes it hard for you to be on front page for all people. You can be on page 3 for me and page 1 for another person. So if this is the way thing are going then it hardly matters if you're selling links or selling ad banners.

Sometimes you seem so good at taunting google. The police thing is good. It fits brilliantly on what google is doing today. Plus, I think you stated the number of updates a bit modestly. I have heard on numerous places that there are about 400 updates a year. So we get more than one update every day. Some of the updates get publicly visible such as the Panda but others are so secret that we don't even know about it. So no one can say for sure, what Big G is doing.

Linkworth is one more network which has more benefits for publishers. I have seen that many publishers getting better results using this network. This network basically puts your site into marketplace and then advertisers bid for the amount. Same like any other ad network. Then you have to accept the offer of higher bidder. I may review this ad network in another thread because it deserves the attention for those who are interested in link selling or buying. But issues are there like more traffic is requirement, they also consider alexa rank. I don't know why fake alexa ranking is important, same with PR. But they have these criteria and if you are into adjungle and want to try links on main domain then try linkworth.

I think I should go and check linkworth. May be I can find a new way of monetization.

mahesh2k

1) If you think its hard to make money without google then i don't think making money online is for you. You don't have to be mark to be making money or driving traffic to you or your site. There are things like - list building, social media (not social bookmarking), connections, answers, forums which run independent of the search engines. These type of things are there even before google and still work much better in terms of traffic. As i'm using one of these traffic sources i don't care if google drops me out of index or not. It hardly makes any difference to me as i made plenty of changes since farmer update of the algorithm and considering panda update which is moving target, it's waste to rely on google for traffic. You take what you want from this, or ignore it. As for privacy and SERP issues with them, i cleared my view and got flamed here from SE noobs so i don't bother with them at all. I know when and which screw to turn in case of google for my benefit and when to ignore unlike noobs here. So any further talks on SERPS atleast on this forum is useless.

2) I prefer text link ads on subdomains because penalization is restricted to particular subdomain and hardly has impact on TLD. Content is irrelevant in case of text link ads. All they care is about PR and traffic and if you have that then it hardly matters what type of content is there on your site. You can assume the rest from here. Besides monetization is personal issue, which has restriction from networks when it comes to ad selling. You can have good content but due to less traffic it takes 2-3 years to even qualify for their criteria. So if you're using any low value links or ads on your site which has less beneficial monetization then it's your choice. Some sites only wait for "best possible monetization" and then get slapped with panda or farmer like algorithm. So it is upto you which type of ads suits your site and how you want to juggle with it.

3) Current algorithm isn't fixed and there are more than 5 named updates are running - farmer algorithm which runs once every month which kills sites like about.com, ehow, hubpages, infobarrel and article directories, panda update which kills made for adsense sites and sites with too many ads that runs every 3-4 weeks and 3 more named updates(i'm not aware of their official or social names) that cleans the search index from public pages and replaces it with corporate ads and sites on front pages (which is again hot topic these days as it kills natural ranking and gives boost to advertisers in search results). You can read here about anti-affiliate update (though google has it's own aff network but they want to kill sites with aff link on front page). Another mono-poly trick which is not publisher friendly. I can go on and on but i don't care about it anymore as my plans are long term earning on net and not short term by wasting time manipulating SERPS.

4) I may post thread with linkworth soon. If you are interested in making money with text links then i gues linkworth and text link ads are good option. Just make sure you choose advertisers within your niche and not outside it.



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