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snlildude87

The only reason I made a thread about suggestions in the staff forum is because it may seem unprofessional for a moderator to post in the suggestions subforum. The aim of this thread is for all moderators to post what they would like to see here at Xisto. Moreover, instead bombarding OpaQue's or NilsC's inbox every so often, mods can post here and wait for OpaQue or NilsC to come and take care of the rest. Recently, I made a thread that expressed my concerns on the Hot News forum, and that didn't last very long, so I hope this one will have a better life. I thought it might be a good idea after I saw two things at Xisto that grabbed my attention, and I don't have the powers to take care of it myself:

 

1. There should be a test subforum, with no post count, in the staff forum where new moderators can test out all the new features.

2. I believe members are not fully understanding the purpose of the What Is...?. After reading OpaQue's rules for the forum:

THIS FORUM IS MENT FOR TOPICS RELATED TO "WHAT IS?" i.e. For Explaining new things, issues, terms or any idea. But you may NOT create any topic which does not give any explanation.

The majority of the new threads made in the What Is forum only provides a place for members to voice their opinions rather than explaining new things like OpaQue said. I think this could be fixed by making the rules for readable for others or by changing the name of this forum.

 


NilsC

I pinned this topic. I'll read again when I get back. I'm on my way out to dinner.. Nils


OpaQue

Ok, Please post in your suggestions, I will have a closer look. Also, I think we just keep this one thread going. Dont make more threads for suggestion. When I come to this forum, I will check for the LAST REPLY, If its nilsc or me, I will know that there are no new suggestions :-)


snlildude87

In accordance with OpaQue's wishes, I will continue to keep this thread going by making a suggestion.

I think we should move the Photoshop Arena to another forum - or maybe make it a forum of its own, so it will hopefully attract more posts. Check out this thread here, http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/, and read the pleas .


snlildude87

New suggestion = new postI think we should make all members, who do not want a hosting package, put some sort of sign near their username. That way, if they make some one liner such as "thank you" or "cool" or "lol", they won't get penalized. For example, when they sign up, there could be a checkbox that says "Do you want a hosting package?", and if they don't check that, then they should have a sign on their member title or something that tells us moderators and admins not to punish them when their posts are sub-par.


Johnny

There would have to be an option to remove that later on though, in case they decide they do want hosting.My forum layout suggestion is in the topic with my name. The What Is forum has been replaced, and the Photoshop forum has been moved up (and broadened to all graphics.)


Dooga

It's easy! If they are in the "[HOSTED]" group, they are hosted!


NilsC

I have to jump in and say a few words. Moderating is most of the time helping out a member, we don't actually punish them. It just looks that way, the not tag and the warning is wa way to make a member aware of what is wrong and they will correct it. Others will have the totally opposite reaction and be outraged because you dared to warn them.A very good example is the discussion I had with a member that got the "Vent" shut down today. Just because it's called the vent don't mean it is legal to prosecute or swear. If the bad word filter kicked in you didn't watch what you said. Derogatory remarks should not be used in the vent or any other place, this goes for religious, race age or sexual preferation. (This list is not all inclusive so use judgement)Basically moderating is to help out and make the board run smoth, let people know where the line is.Nils


Johnny

I thought we -were- supposed to punish aggressively, though?


wassie

mod's have to warn people and help them out...but you can warn aggresive.. but not on a agressive tone...say if someone spams you say "please dont spam anymore else you will get kicked" thats like a agressive warning


Becca

For the tutorials section... you could install the tutorial mod. Where you can EASILY post tutorials, comment on them and rate them. It would be more efficient and look better. Plus the tutorials people make get credited in their profiles and they could see how useful they are from the ratings.. Or is that too much hassle?


Johnny

Sounds good. Might cause problems with hosting credits though....


snlildude87

For the tutorials section... you could install the tutorial mod. Where you can EASILY post tutorials, comment on them and rate them. It would be more efficient and look better. Plus the tutorials people make get credited in their profiles and they could see how useful they are from the ratings..

Or is that too much hassle?

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Sounds like the reputation system, and your idea is really good. Each person would be motivated to submit a tutorial which would in turn help the Xisto community. There could be a little ranking system to see which member received the best votes, submitted the most tutorials, etc. The list is almost endless!

Johnny

Yeah, I'm sure it would build up competition and more will to post tutorials. But what about people who just post links or quotes to other tutorials? Will that still count?Also, it would have to be integrated to count as a "post" so that the hosting credits will still be recieved.


snlildude87

But what about people who just post links or quotes to other tutorials? Will that still count?

 

Also, it would have to be integrated to count as a "post" so that the hosting credits will still be recieved.

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If you find a person who posts tutorials that are not original, simply delete it - you have the power now, so no, it will not count.

 

If we ever decide to accept the rating system for tutorials, then I think it would use a completely different set of variables, so the rating system will not interfere with the hosting credits system


Johnny

If you find a person who posts tutorials that are not original, simply delete it - you have the power now, so no, it will not count.

 

If we ever decide to accept the rating system for tutorials, then I think it would use a completely different set of variables, so the rating system will not interfere with the hosting credits system

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Ah. So, what about ones like that ''Speed up Firefox" one? I see that that one is quoted, and nobody has deleted it yet. I just thought that was allowed...

 

But then, people would no longer recieve hosting credits for their tutorial submissions, like they do now, right?


snlildude87

Ah. So, what about ones like that ''Speed up Firefox" one? I see that that one is quoted, and nobody has deleted it yet. I just thought that was allowed...

 

But then, people would no longer recieve hosting credits for their tutorial submissions, like they do now, right?

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Well, tutorials like those are very helpful because it enables people on a faster internet to utilize their connection, but tutorials that are directly copied and pasted from other Photoshop tutorials are not acceptable because not everyone is interested in Photoshop or graphics in general. In other words, it all depends on if the tutorial will be beneficial to other members.

 

Tweaking Firefox == useful

 

Create pretty pictures on some picture editing program == not useful

 

If the rating system is accepted, then why won't people receive hosting credits for their for their tutorials? After a moderator or admin accepts the tutorial, then the script that takes care of hosting credits will credit the user while the script that takes care of the rating accomplish its task. The two scripts will never know the other exist, so therefore, there will be no interference.


Johnny

I take it you're not a very graphics-oriented person. Welp, I am, and some tutorials can be really useful, regardless of if they're copied or not. But I understand that plagiarism is bad, so I think that -all- copied tutorials should be eliminated, or at least have proof of permission from the tutorial writer.And about the credits, I was thinking that what was suggested was a seperate tutorial section, like, it wouldn't be posts on the forum. Something similar to how army system or the calendar, in the "seperated' aspect.But I'm guessing what you mean is a tutorial mod that will be like normal posts, but with ratings attached. Or something like that.


snlildude87

I take it you're not a very graphics-oriented person.

 

But I'm guessing what you mean is a tutorial mod that will be like normal posts, but with ratings attached.

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No, I'm not.

 

That's exactly what I meant.


OpaQue

I had installed a seperate forum for tutorials. The following are the problems because of which I had to un-install the damn thing :-1> No optimization2> Screwed up the interface ( I think because this board if PF4 )3> Messed with the credits4> Was more complex and more pain for building the credits system for it.OF all the above reason, the main reason because of which I discarded it is because of the optimization thing. If the tutorials are not optimized, no matter how good tutorials we have, no one will be able to find it. Our tutorials are mainly admired by outsiders who come from Google. I hope you guys understand my point here.Currently, I really don't have much time in hand to work out. There is a hell lot lot lot of work pending on Xisto. Basically, The posts need to be organised. A more perfect planning is required. I am also planning to make a subdomain for seperate forums make the forum heirarchy more deep. So games.trap17.com will directly take members to the games forum where they can talk about games. And things like this :-)Secondly, I also have to organise those 38,000 posts which I have imported from another forums. Then, Its updating invision board to the original version or whatever final release and licencing it. And that would require me to re-install the mods (all of them inclusing setting up the optimization and the hosting credits system). Making permanent arrangements for the IRC thing. Where people can chat and hang out :-) I am not dedicating much time there, M^E did a very nice job of setting it up. but I myself don't know much about it. I got to learn it . I will be busy with my Degree studies for about a month. Then I will finish up all this pending work. :-)Sincerely,OpaQue



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