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well, I saw so many guys that love PHP. So I decided to learn it too BUT... If you could post some good E-Books from where I can learn it or some sites with tuts that will help me... But please if you wanna post something, then post a good site from where its easy to learn, because I know about many sites from where you cannot learn almost anything.BTW:I am skilled in html so no html tuts :)And sorry for my english :) .

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If I were you, I'd check out this link:
http://freeprogrammingresources.com/freephp.html
It contains twelve PHP tutorials and I think they are good to strat with. Also, it might be a good idea to play with a CMS/blog software and explore its source files. That way you see how PHP really works, without learning anything by heart.

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the Site/Resource pyost gave is brilliant. For addition, I remember when I first tried php, a lot of experience I got was from editing other php scripts with the trying to integrate it into my sites, but there weren't a lot of very good free php scripts in 2001-2 years.. I could easily read them and understand what they do in some way, but I used to ask myself "how do they write it from plain", but when I started to do it myself, I found it really exiting and laugh from the old good days.. I searched and learned everything myself, now a lot of whom on IRC #phphelp channel wants other people to do the script for them for free and they don't want to learn anything (not all of course), a lot of whom, especially from my country on IRC doesn't even now basic English and they want to become php programmers, maybe it is possible, but still, in my language there are only basic php scripts and tutorials, so no English basics, no php..And remember, PHP Manual (& mysql too) is your best friend :) You don't need to know all the commands and functions etc. You just need to know what is possible and whats not. :) And yeah, always learn practically and not only theoretically. Good luck :D

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As you Quatrux I was editing PHP scripts too but never tryed to do my own script from scratch.Maybe iam too young for all of this but I love programming world.I love PHP but never had a time to learn it.Now when I have it, I hope, I will learn it.BTW: Iam 14 :)

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The best way to learn it is to Work in it from the scratch. U know three months ago i only know that PHP is a scripting language. With the help of forums (Like this one), and the sites whihc pffers tutorials, I gained a lot of knowledge. And at this moment, I can easily work in PHP with all its features.

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I agree. Just look at a few examples and then create your own basic script to handle things. It might sound stupid but if you create something simple to deal with form variables and echo them back out might be a good start. There's so many functions in PHP that it'll take awhile to really get a good grasp on things. I still use references (which I don't know anyone that doesn't) to keep me on track with the functions. PHP.net is great, and I think I started learning PHP from htmlgoodies.com w3's site is a very good place to start learning.Having this free account at Xisto and experience of HTML and FTP will help you a lot compared to someone who is new and starting.Perhaps you can do a simple web-app then link us to it and show us what you accomplished. That way you'll have the motivation to continue, and you'll feel the support from the forums. The main thing is to have something that you realize won't be too complicated to create, then create it and improve on it. If you've never coded in anything before you should take a look at conditional states and loops. You'll be using those a lot.

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"PHP and MYSQL for Dynamic Websites, Second Edition" by Larry Ullman.There are lots of good scripts in there and a site on the Net to download samples from.Additionally, the author has a Forum which is used to answer your questions and assist with problems.

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the book that worked for me is "PHP5 for Dummies". It is agreat book and I think it is the best for person like you who has no experience in PHP at all but knows well about HTML. I'm a programmer myself and I have worked in C++, VC++, VB and JAVA2, JSP etc. So, it was not any difficult for me to have a good idea of PHP in a single day only. All you need to learn, are basics. you can search hundrads oh thousands scripts on internet and you can search any function you need, official or unoffecial, on web. Best resource is http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/ you know how to implement those functions, classes and scripts, you are good to go. That's all you need. No need to be any expert. My advise focus, learn and practice the basics like echo,$variable, arrays, strings, loops and most important, have a good idea of database connectivity. That's it, that's all you need in your baggage.something about programming! "Do not try to be a smart programer, Try to be smart enough to have your results, your outputs in focus, you'll be an experienced very soon"Best of Luck

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Two more things to add to the comments of our fellows.As Hasan Arbab has stated, http://php.net/ is a great resource for looking up php functions and how do their job. But besides that, you might check the comments on each page at php.net. It' common to find very nice examples, maybe hundreds, that are contributed by PHP experts. And a delicate topic to talk about PHP, and CGI scripting in general speaking, is the Security Issue. You can be a PHP expert, but if your code lacks on security considerations, maybe you rendered an useless code, as long as it can be a risk for the entire server integrity. So i would put an eye on the security topic when programming CGIs in order to make strong PHPs.NOTE: (for all that don't know what PHP has to do with CGI, say that PHP is just an implementation of CGI communication (it stands for Common Gateway Interface)).

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