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evion

I would like to know what graphic program you think is best? I use Fireworks but somehow i keep thinking Photoshop is twice as good. Problem is, I don't find myself trying to use Adobe =) I know so many tricks done on Fireworks I just can't break free. What do u think?


Strykerclan Leader

It's your choice, techocian.I think you should download a copy of Photoshop and try it out before deciding which one you should use.Keeping both copies will be recommended.(by me)


ChronicLoser

if you're more accustommed to Fireworks, I say stick with it. Personally, I never tried using that application and have only used psp and photoshop for graphics, so I can't provide you with differences and similarities =/


evion

Hmm....actually did u guys started with Fireworks or Photoshop? I mean like the first time you discovered your talents in Graphic design? I'm such a great fan of Macromedia!! In fact, the only product that i don't really like from Macromedia is Dreamweaver (Maybe thats because i hate WYSIWYG editors...) All the rest rocks!!


pixelsmack

i use photoshop, i think its a very very powerful app for graphic design i did use pain shop pro a while back before i got a copy of photoshop and it wasn't a patch. i never really tried fireworks, i do however know that fireworks is designed more for web graphics design as opposed to photoshop being more generalised.


ssjojo

well i started off with photoshop and have become accustomed with all of the tools that the program provides. and i havent even used macromedia fireworks but one of my friends thinks that fireworks is better


arkad

Tried a lil' of Firework while doing a Web-Design Course. No match for Photoshop. PS can really work wonders, and I believe is the choicest software for graphics artists.

 

There are many ways to download a copy of it freely anyway .. (Shan't explain further in this open forum .. .. Dangerous to say somethings)

 

BTW is there a Linux equivalent of Photoshop? I do not expect it to be as powerful, but at least can do most of the common design functionalities ..


samwize

I have used Photoshop and find it excellent for doing many things. The only exception is that it is not easy to draw what I have in mind cos maybe I am not familiar with the tool.I am more keen to know what is the difference between Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator. Anyone knows the diff? Is Illustrator use more for drawing since it is called 'illustrator'?


sxyloverboy

i think fireworks is easyer to handle but photoshop is better. i personaly use fireworks cuz i cant be botherd to get acustomed to ps.


Xaine

I started on Photoshop, and I really didn't try Macromedia Fireworks. No time to really get used to it. Photoshop, I think can do a lot of things, but I really can't make a judgement. To each his own I suppose.


MajesticTreeFrog

I have used Photoshop and find it excellent for doing many things. The only exception is that it is not easy to draw what I have in mind cos maybe I am not familiar with the tool.

 

I am more keen to know what is the difference between Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator. Anyone knows the diff? Is Illustrator use more for drawing since it is called 'illustrator'?

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What you want in photoshop(esp. 7 and CS) is the paintbrush tool. You also likely want a tablet if you are using it for drawing. The tablet + paintbrush solution is crazy for doing art, for instance: my lizardman

 

As for the difference between illustrator and photoshop, illustrator is for illustration. The difference is that illustrator mainly does vector graphics, whereas photoshop handles pixel or raster based graphics(like for the web and such). Finally, imageready that comes with photoshop is for taking photoshop stuff and setting it up for web use(like slices of images and such)


samwize

What you want in photoshop(esp. 7 and CS) is the paintbrush tool.  You also likely want a tablet if you are using it for drawing.  The tablet + paintbrush solution is crazy for doing art, for instance: my lizardman

 

As for the difference between illustrator and photoshop, illustrator is for illustration.  The difference is that illustrator mainly does vector graphics, whereas photoshop handles pixel or raster based graphics(like for the web and such).  Finally, imageready that comes with photoshop is for taking photoshop stuff and setting it up for web use(like slices of images and such)

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But photoshop itself has vector tools too. Or is there something special about illustrator's vector graphics?

 

Your lizardman is really cool. Did you just do that with Photoshop?

 

And I just got a tablet not long ago


lacking_imagination

I would like to know what graphic program you think is best? I use Fireworks but somehow i keep thinking Photoshop is twice as good. Problem is, I don't find myself trying to use Adobe =) I know so many tricks done on Fireworks I just can't break free. What do u think?

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Well, i use Both sometimes. I use photoshop ONLY for the sponge tool to desaturate parts of pictures. Then go to photoshop, use the polygon select tool and cut parts out and layer them onto other pictures. I don't photoshop, i photoworks Anyways, i would suggest using both, and seeing how you like them. i started in fireworks and !found! Photoshop on my pc, but the saturate can be done if fireworks (i found it last night) but to only desaturate part of it you have to polygon select that part and find it in the Effects, i think. Well, hope i helped!

Peace

Aaron


rockista

I used photoshop, and I can do many things, and also have a lot effect.. I also try fireworks.. But photoshop make my project easier..


moonwitch1405241479

Tried a lil' of Firework while doing a Web-Design Course. No match for Photoshop. PS can really work wonders,  and I believe is the choicest software for graphics artists.

 

There are many ways to download a copy of it freely anyway .. (Shan't explain further in this open forum ..     .. Dangerous to say somethings)

 

BTW is there a Linux equivalent of Photoshop? I do not expect it to be as powerful, but at least can do most of the common design functionalities ..

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Yep, there definately is a Linux equivalent for Photoshop... It's called The Gimp. I have to say I haven't tried it that much, from what I've tried it is definately worth the try, it is ported into a Windows version as well. And it is FREE.

moonwitch1405241479

But photoshop itself has vector tools too. Or is there something special about illustrator's vector graphics?

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Photoshop has only basic vector capabilites. Illustrator aims for all vector graphics. A good idea is to google for SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics), that may show you the true power of vector based graphics... W3 SVG site. You may need a plugin to see it. For IE it is simple, for Firefox you need to manually install the Adobe SVG viewer 6 (beta).

 

Take for example a simple line... in Photoshop that would be the pencil tool, line tool, etc and will be a raster layer. In Illustrator anything you put on the scene will be a vector layer.

 

Now back to the topic

 

I have both Fireworks and Photoshop. I can't really say I can compare both, since Fireworks lies closer to ImageReady (personal opinion). I started out in Paint Shop Pro, and found it inadequate for what I needed, but it all depends on what you are looking for of course. PSP uses more system resources and seems slower than PS.

 

Fireworks however is excellent to prepare gif's for the web, I found the optimizer better than the one in PS or ImageReady and the *button state* editor is more user-friendly in FW, but then again I haven't been using ImageReady long enough. Other than that I don't use FW much. All I can say is I prefer PhotoShop over PSP and FW for the graphic design. FW rocks in graphic editing solely for the web

 

Hope this helps some..


harriko

fireworks bring me back to the old times. its the first professional editing program i ever used. before that i used paint... fireworks is pretty good for new users on picture editing, i say its a user friendly program. from fireworks i them tried adobe photoshop it has much more features but basically the same. you also have more control and functions to do on your pictures. so then on i kept on using adobe photoshop. iam still using this now. so i will vote for photoshop but for new users to digital desgin its fireworks.


moonwitch1405241479

if you're more accustommed to Fireworks, I say stick with it. Personally, I never tried using that application and have only used psp and photoshop for graphics, so I can't provide you with differences and similarities =/

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I would say depending on what your goal is with the graphics design interest....choose the program. For example, if you intend to build a carreer in that direction, you would probably have to switch to PhotoShop (perhaps Fireworks or any other Pro program). But just for fun, I'd go with what is easiest for you, unless you feel you stagnated somewhere and want a new challenge.

 

Chronic? I have a wee question, how did you do those fonts in your sig graphic and av? I've never had that good results (didn't know how else to get this question in than to ask it as a ps LOL)


kenjvalip

You know both Photoshop and Fireworks are different. They have different features, but I guess photoshop has more features and power. Fireworks is good for basic graphics and if you want good flash animation use fireworks together with flash. When it comes to power and sharpness go for photoshop. Although fireworks is more user friendly than photoshop. Consider photoshop, it is a professional way of making sharp and crisp graphics for your use.


iGuest

I think the question of Fireworks or Photoshop is best answered by figuring out what you want to do with it. FW was designed to compete with ImageReady (you know the program connected to PS by hitting Ctrl + Shift + M) and not directly competing with PS.

FW is awesome because everything you create with the Pen tool or shapes are vectors, which makes it easy for resizing elements without losing any quality. 

I started out using PS and a few years ago made the switch to FW for "most" things. I think it's easier to use gradients, fills, strokes, etc... FW is more of a Website Designer tool while PS is generally seen as a Photo Editing program.

It really all depends on what I'm doing. If I need to do some crazy graphic things like using brushes or grunging an image out, I'll use PS. I think the most important thing is to get a good feel for what program does WHAT best and use it accordingly!

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