Iframes Sick Of hates

Im so sick of Iframes these people running there mouths about designing with iframes is so terrible .... If its functionable and contains what they say it does i could rather careless if the hole page is frames =)

It is terrible, what if you want to save the page to read later on? And try to pay a little attention to your grammar, cause it's quite difficult to read. And sure, YOU don't care about it, but what about others? If you make a site with frams search engines may get in trouble indexing your pages.

Well I think iframes are quite useful. They are easy to use for the webmaster and look quite nice if well designed and used.You don't have to continually copy your design from one page to another also its quickerloading as you don't have to load the exact same picture over and over again.

well, that's where php comes in. PHP and mySQL pretty much eliminates the trouble of having to copy your coding from one page to another. But personally, I have nothing against frames. I am willing to browse through sites that have frames. But like jipman said, it's not a very good thing for search engines that's why there are few framed sites that are very successful.

I am a personal fan of Iframes. I use them in my site for the reason that I don't know how to do PHP, yet. they are good for graphical sites so that the images that are on every page never reloads. Though the search engines may have probelms with that I am sure there is a solution to that.

what exactly are iframes? how do you use them?

iframes?

hmm..... it is the frame inside the page(inside frame).

best used in tables.

if you hate don't use it

i have to admit, iframes are probably better then the original frameset tags. I don't mind iframes too much...but frames can get pretty ugly for an unexperienced designer.

what exactly are iframes?  how do you use them?

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An iframe is a mircosoft property that allows you to place a frame inside of a table to receive another document. They work like a frame page but allows for readable content (outside of the iframe) for the SE spiders.

They are extremely handy on the design end, but do not print when someone prints the doc off the internet, or only prints the content of the iframe if the right click/print option is use over the iframe itself.

When I first learned of Iframes I loved them. Still do, however, as far as I know, Netscape doesn't read them, or at least the older versions don't. (Someone let me know if Netscape has added iframe, please)

While ie is the browser of choice for most, far too many people use Netscape to even consider using iframes for publically viewed sites. I use text area boxes with CSS when I want the iframe effect. This basically will accomplish the same thing minus the graphics, and are entirely readable and indexable by the search engine spiders.

Firefox reads iframes, so more than likely so does netscape.

Normal Frames suck and almost no one uses them now except old crappy websites and stupid designers .

crypt it means your dumb. your post shows that you have a poor web design experiences and skills. Just think of, what if one of your client wants their site to be in frames.

then he should make it for himself , i never said i am a pro. web designer , i am an amateur graphics designer in general and i design websites for free , so if he's gonna tell me to do so , he can go to hell

It's all gecko based isn't it? So any thing gecko based will read it.Ehm guys, IF someone wants to have a website with frames, they probably can build one theirselves, do you expect that the standard-issue-i-want-a-website-person knows what frames are?AND i totally agree with crypt, frames are lamePS. I'm not a webdesigner, more a webprogrammer, i build 'applications' for webpages like content-management-systems and stuff. :)

thank you , someone from this WORLD !