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Firefox 2 To Firefox 3 - Is It Worth Upgrading? Lets settle this matter once and for all.


kobra500

they stole a lot from Opera though

was that written negitively?

in the computing world, stealing and adapting ideas from rival browsers is a good thing, everyone makes it out to be bad, however, if you think for a second you'll realise why, sometimes people dont all have the same ideas, so they make a browser without stealing any from your rivals and your left having to use 2 or 3 browsers because 1 doesn't do everything. It's like this

"OS X is better because Microsoft stole ideas from it" , yes and throughout time Mac os stole ideas from microsoft, and visa versa, it doesn't matter, that saves you having to dual boot windows and a really bad os such as Mac OS x or in fact every peace of terrible software apple has ever written. I'm no Bill Gates fan, far from it in fact , but even i have to admit his stuff is good!

I will start using linux but not till i get my new computer, my current can't run it.

Anyway back to the point at hand , firefox 3 is very good, I remember Beta 3, the only issue I had was the style, no Home button i think. anyway they've fixed it and most of my addons have been updating recenly. It looks good, sounds good and is good with some outstanding features.

Oh and also, i'm back online now

rayzoredge

I was in OP's position for a good while, wondering if it was worth upgrading from FF2 to FF3. I've installed FF3 on my work machine and had some nitpicks, but after eventually upgrading all of my personal computers with FF3, I haven't really noticed much to gripe about.A lot of improvements to the browser isn't going to be noticed by Joe Schmoe. I haven't reviewed the changes and improvement list yet or just don't remember them, but I'm sure that a whole new world is opened up for web developers. From the average user's point of view, we'd probably only notice the address bar, the download history, and maybe the lessened possibility of crashes. I don't know what people are talking about with the "fixed" memory leak issue... the process still is a RAM hog, but since I have 2GB of RAM, I'll trade stability and security for resources at this point. In short, upgrading to FF3 hasn't left me in a tizzy, and I've been able to use FF3 as easily as FF2 without having to scramble to find where things are or have to learn anything new. It's still the same great browser, but with a lot of improvements in the background that not a lot of average users will actually discover to appreciate.


samlockart

I'm really LOVING firefox 3, I have been using it since beta 1 and it's GREAT, the nav bar is AMAZING now and I can't really picture me going back to firefox 2. The only con is that not all plugins are supported... yet.

also this should make firefox a happier faster browser


cheers, sam.

PS pop one of these in the nav-bar:

about:robots
about:mozilla


Forbez

Yes, yes yes and guess what? Yes. But give it a couple of weeks lol. I believe there are still a few bugs, none that I've experienced but their probably is. Wait for the next update or something. What I found frustrating was that I had a very organised Links bar, which I've now lost. I had to rebuild it all over again.But it is a vast improvement from Firefox 2.0, lots of changes. Reminds me a lot of Opera though - less stolen like my previous statement.


rpgsearcherz

I would upgrade just because even if it's not better in terms of the things you can visually see, it may have updates to security, crashing issues, etc.Usually the only things that I do NOT upgrade immediately are those released by Microsoft.


gameratheart

Usually the only things that I do NOT upgrade immediately are those released by Microsoft.

That made me laugh so hard! But yeah, Microsoft are known to do a few *sneaky things* with their updates, so always best to find out what they actually do first.

 

Back to the topic at hand, and well, looks like everybody is for Firefox 3. I'll give it another whirl to see if it's "for me", but if everybody else is happy then I have high hopes.

 

And to clear up something I said earlier, no, I was not expecting anybody to post a double-sided debate on this matter. My question asked for an opinion, which is always a "yes" or "no". Ok, I misphrased what I meant by saying that "everybody seemed one-sided" - what I really meant was "everybody seems to be for the one side". That was just another example of how speaking in your native language doesn't mean you know it well.


litchy

I don't really see any advantages that any user would make upgrading to 3 but i haven't looked into it enough to say. I find firefox 2 to be more than enough at the present moment, the usual browsing, downloading etc. I would like to see perhaps a better download manager come with it, but thats all.Are their just beta's out? Or actual final editions?


Janissary

BEta is over.


TheKoolAidGuy

In my opinion if you use a lot of plugins and such i would not upgrade untill all the creators have had a chance to upgrade there stuff.


electriic ink

In my opinion if you use a lot of plugins and such i would not upgrade untill all the creators have had a chance to upgrade there stuff.

On the topic of extensions, I think it's amazing how little you actually rely on them. Whenever Firefox is upgraded I always manage to uninstall all but five or six of my extensions just because when they suddenly don't work, I realise that they weren't that necessary at all. Besides, all the popular extensions like Adblock and ForecastFox have been compatible with Fx3 since the beta versions came out. On top of that, quite a few extensions are actually compatible with the newest version despite claiming they're not. To find out if your old extensions are compatible, type about:config into the address bar awesome bar , find extensions.checkCompatibility and set the value to "false". (You may need to create a new boolean value yourself if it doesn't exist. To do this, right click anywhere, select New -> Boolean - the rest should be fairly obvious.) Be aware this might damage your browser. If it does, start Firefox in safe-mode and simply change the said value to "true".

 

My only really concern would be that Firefox 3.0.0.0 is quite vulnerable and there will be many security fixes come 3.0.0.1. But this isn't really much cause for concern; if you're careful and only browse respectable sites, you'll be fine.


seba1killer

I wont upgrade.The new firefox has a better render system that makes it a little more faster, but with the new features it is some slow.For example every time that i want to enter an address in the bar, it opens and starts to search for a similar one. There appears from the porn sites to the news one, so it is more a disturb than a feature. Also it makes the browsing slow for me as i have a Pentium 3 machine.For all the people that wants to test it, just let firefox 2 installed and install it and take your own conclusion, maybe if your pc is faster than mine you will not notice the slow process of some features.Regards, Seba.


TheKoolAidGuy

On the topic of extensions, I think it's amazing how little you actually rely on them. Whenever Firefox is upgraded I always manage to uninstall all but five or six of my extensions just because when they suddenly don't work, I realise that they weren't that necessary at all. Besides, all the popular extensions like Adblock and ForecastFox have been compatible with Fx3 since the beta versions came out. On top of that, quite a few extensions are actually compatible with the newest version despite claiming they're not. To find out if your old extensions are compatible, type about:config into the address bar awesome bar , find extensions.checkCompatibility and set the value to "false". (You may need to create a new boolean value yourself if it doesn't exist. To do this, right click anywhere, select New -> Boolean - the rest should be fairly obvious.) Be aware this might damage your browser. If it does, start Firefox in safe-mode and simply change the said value to "true".

 

My only really concern would be that Firefox 3.0.0.0 is quite vulnerable and there will be many security fixes come 3.0.0.1. But this isn't really much cause for concern; if you're careful and only browse respectable sites, you'll be fine.

lol so your basically tricking your browser into thinking it's compatible?

 

I know some people have been having problems with there skins.


electriic ink

lol so your basically tricking your browser into thinking it's compatible?
I know some people have been having problems with there skins.


Basically, yes. I doubt themes will work though because the design of the browser has changed so much since Firefox 2. For instance, this is Noia 2.0 (eXtreme), which is designed for Firefox 2, under Firefox 3:

http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/404.png

Looks pretty crappy...

TheKoolAidGuy

Basically, yes. I doubt themes will work though because the design of the browser has changed so much since Firefox 2. For instance, this is Noia 2.0 (eXtreme), which is designed for Firefox 2, under Firefox 3:
http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/404.png

Looks pretty crappy...


Yea it's kinda hard to tell but you can see where things don't look right on the skin.

Like you said also most skins will not look right at all but theres always that small chance that they may look appeasing to the eye.

~Daniel

gisellebebegirl

eh its the same speed really.. i like the new look of your bookmarks that show underneath the navigation bar/look of the google search box next to it.. but thats about it.. the BACK & Forward thing is gay looking.. the X, Refresh and Home box are gay too, the navigation bar gives too much info about the websites youve visited... unwanted information if you ask me.and theres no little.. GO button at the end of the navigation bar, i liked that button.. and.. theres a newsfeed or whatever icon at the end of the navigation bar along with a gay star.. which is odd..so yea.. i like firefox.. but firefox 3, is a gay update of my love():


serverph

those interested may download a FREE EBOOK from SITEPOINT entitled:
FIREFOX 3 REVEALED -- What's New, What's Hot & What's Not, by Fabio Cevasco

it's a short ebook (30 pages in total), so it won't take long for you to breeze through the entire ebook, and hopefully learn (and appreciate) firefox 3 more.


miladinoski

I was a huge fan of Firefox at the times (around 1 year ago), and though I still love it, its not that big like in the past.

Instead, I fell in love with Opera, with its awesome community and support.

I like Firefox mostly because of its extensibility, but lets admit it, without the extensions Firefox is just a piece of crap (of course not worse than IE - nothing is worse than IE) and its 10 times worse than Opera. But luckily, it has the extensions and its huge user base (hkm, fanboys, hkm.. ).

Every upgrade is worth it, especially a browser upgrade, not only you get new features, but you get things which people don't notice the first time, and those are:

- Standards compatibility

- Speed (and for me most important)

- Security

 

I will continue to spread Opera, but I will also recommend Firefox whenever I can


Saint_Michael

Nah, even without the extensions, rendering websites properly and being more secured and eating less memory are some of the better features. The extensions are just a bonus and on top of that most extension designers don't even bother updating them, and of top of that there are a lot of junk extensions out there and I wouldn't mind seeing them clean up their extension database and get rid of some of those unused extensions.@server Yeah I saw that website as well and was tempted to post that on the forums but decided not to, because it seems a bit impractical to write a e-book on something everyone knows already.


ronnygeo

Firefox 3 is g8.. Much better nav bar and status bar... It also has a new download manager like the one in safari.. dont know about the security n all... Im currently using it...


samlockart

Firefox 3 is AMAZING!!!! I have been using it since beta 1. Very fast and it never crashes! Awesome bar is awesome.Sam.



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