Trap17 2008 Awards Voting

[master_bacarra 0]

To be fair everyone lost votes to make it as even as possible so if you were winning by like 2-3 votes you could now be losing, however, because I turned the logging on after I started I don't know an accurate count. So with the house cleaning I did it is more or less what has been voted so far.

eh? why not just start from the top? I'd prefer resetting the poll and everyone putting their votes again instead of you saying "I've deducted some points to everyone to make things fair and let's start from there". I don't see the fairness in that. I'm not saying this because I don't trust you or anything, the whole point is you can't just stop in the middle of the voting and just manually alter the votes yourself. Even using the IP address as a basis of you deducting vote counts doesn't prove that someone has entered multiple votes. Other users have dial-up access which gives them the ability to change their IP addresses, others could also use computer rentals, which have a different address that what they've used in their home computers or laptops.

[Saint_Michael 3]

True I could have done that, but again only two polls were affected by the person who did so I could have just edited them and be done with it. However, I did what was right because after going through the polls, some of them had 7 to 11 invalid votes, and of course I had one person from Tennessee, (Yeah I am talking to you ), go through most of the polls two at least two votes a piece. Yet it wouldn't be fair either to start it over again, and make people vote again, but taking over the reigns has been a bit tricky just because of how busy I was so everything was done quite hastily. You are right about the dial up users however, I came across very few of those and although some of the numbers we close it still is hard to prove that one.I have notice that not all polls have receive the same amount attention though, and best guess is that not everyone know everyone and so that is understandable, of course I now non mods have been voting in the reported post poll, but that is fine. So hopefully those who didn't vote for everything can go back and vote in the polls they did not vote for.

[master_bacarra 0]

and of course I had one person from Tennessee, (Yeah I am talking to you ).

You do know I'm from the Philippines, right? Care to specify?

Yet it wouldn't be fair either to start it over again, and make people vote again, but taking over the reigns has been a bit tricky just because of how busy I was so everything was done quite hastily.

I don't see why it wouldn't be fair to start over again. All it needs is a reset and ask for people to re-enter their votes, this time, hopefully taking into consideration the error that was presented in the first version of the poll. What's unfair with that? I would have accepted your argument if you said it would be hassle to re-vote again. If you were busy, like probably the rest of us who are working already, you could probably ask some help from other members of the forum who would gladly assist you. I don't see anyone who's so excited in having their votes cast, so I don't see what there's supposed to be a rush in making a poll and not taking into consideration the possible worst case scenario. If it would be the case, I'd rather use the forum's poll since it centers to having a username-specific vote (e.g., one forum member can only vote once).
You also have to consider the fact that the total number of votes would differ in each poll, as members, as you've said, probably don't understand the category or they just don't like to vote in the category (like what I did in some of the polls), unless you specify that each member should secure a vote in every category. I don't think these simple rules aren't too hard to follow and I believe most of the members here are quite level-headed enough to understand such.

[coolcat50 0]

True I could have done that, but again only two polls were affected by the person who did so I could have just edited them and be done with it. However, I did what was right because after going through the polls, some of them had 7 to 11 invalid votes, and of course I had one person from Tennessee, (Yeah I am talking to you ), go through most of the polls two at least two votes a piece. Yet it wouldn't be fair either to start it over again, and make people vote again, but taking over the reigns has been a bit tricky just because of how busy I was so everything was done quite hastily. You are right about the dial up users however, I came across very few of those and although some of the numbers we close it still is hard to prove that one.
I have notice that not all polls have receive the same amount attention though, and best guess is that not everyone know everyone and so that is understandable, of course I now non mods have been voting in the reported post poll, but that is fine. So hopefully those who didn't vote for everything can go back and vote in the polls they did not vote for.

Yeah that's kinda mean considering I'm from Tennessee. I didn't do it though. And do you know what city it came from? I might have an idea of who did it if I can get the IP Address.

[sonesay 7]

Yeah the double voting is being exploited. I have to admit I did a few just to test it out. Its not a bad system in terms of interface but I think if you integrated into Xisto's database of users and only allow you to log in and vote on it once for each section this would definitely fix the problem. But thats of course if you have access to it. Maybe you can talk to the administrators here to see if that is possible. Or you could just code it up and give it to them to check and implement if they see no flaws in the code.

[Saint_Michael 3]

To much of a security risk for Xisto and the other hosts, and also its not officially run by trap as it is more run by the members, although I wouldn't mind having a team with me (2-3 people) to help outnext year. Besides there are polls that do ip one time votes, didn't find them quick enough though as I wanted to get the polling system up as quick as possible.MB that Tennessee thing was for the person who lives in Tennessee who was double voting, so it would be inside joke between me and that user, and no CC I will not give out IP addresses, because of security concerns, and privacy information. If it helps MB the reason I don't want to start it over is that my school schedule is keeping me fairly busy, and no I don't want to give access to my account to help manage it for me. Hopefully when it starts again next year I want to do it in flex as I saw a nice poll in flex.

[Saint_Michael 3]

Ok everyone this is the last week for voting for the Xisto awards, as the polls will close on friday at 12:00 AM (-5 GMT), and so if you haven't voted already, which many have enter your votes in as we have some godd neck and neck races going on with the awards, and of course some blow outs as well.