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  1. -Saint_MichaelWow. I want to ask you a couple of questions.1. Do you have spell/grammar check?2. Did you pass the second grade?I barely understood what you were trying to say. Actually, I don't know if I did understand that. Spell/grammar check is your friend. USE IT!


  2. Ok, sorry! I couldn't help myself, but I promise this post won't be as long as my last (not that it matters, no one's replying). Is there really an edit button? Because I can't find it. Anyway, I think (and this is why I'm ending it here) that debating this is ridiculous. Mainly because it's freakin' obvious who Link likes. Zelda. Trying to prove this is like trying to prove that the ocean contains water or that you have to breathe to live. IT'S OBVIOUS! Plus, the makers of the Zelda series agree with me. I actually got this from another website that I can't remember the name of. But here goes:

     

    In an interview with Aonuma-san about the next Zelda game (The Legend of Zelda: The Twilight Princess)...

    CN: We have received a lot of e-mails in which our readers ask us "Will Zelda and Link someday have a romance?" This is a question that we couldn't let go.

     

    Aonuma: Ha, ha. Good question, at the moment in this new title we're using a teenage Link and, as you all know, teenagers are emotional beings, so there are possibilities of seeing Link showing his feelings towards the princess. We don't know what could happen in the future.

    Miyamoto-san even stated in an interview that if OoT had been about love it'd been between Link and Zelda.

     

    The last thing I'm going to say for now in this debate is that even Ganon agrees that Link and Zelda are meant to be.

     

    Quote:

    "I have taken your precious Zelda."

     

    :lol:


  3. Finally, Zerudahime! Another Z/L person like me and most of the people out there! Anyway, I got a few bones to pick with ReRush, too.

     

    ....as a child, Talon asks you if you would like to marry Malon. It is most unusual in that it presents you with a "yes-no" option for something like that. The fact that Nintendo added interaction with the player on that particular point adds emphasis to it...Second, there is the gossip stone that says, "They say that Malon of Lon Lon Ranch hopes a knight in shining armor will come and sweep her off her feet someday." This forms an interesting connection with Talon's earlier question. Link is too young to truly consider marriage at that early age, but when he becomes older he could "sweep her off her feet." This connection hints towards a future relationship between the two of them. I am cautious as to whether or not this is true, but sources say that this gossip stone actually referred to a scene that was originally part of the ending, in which Link and Malon ride into a sunset on Epona. - ReRush

    First off that point with the gossip stone and the question doesn't really mean anything. Maybe you're looking to much into it, like someone once told me, "Sometimes, a tree is just a tree." Meaning, that sometimes things do always have hidden meanings, they just are. Like the gossip stones, that one about sweeping Malon off her feet is just giving background information about her, just like the "Contrary to her elegant image, Princess Zelda is really a tomboy!" is just giving a little more information about the character. Shigeru Miyamoto said that if the person playing Zelda isn't sucked into the world, he hasn't done his job. He's making the characters seem more real by telling you more about them. It's kind of like fun facts.

     

    And that scene where Link and Malon ride off into the sunset, it was never going to be the ending. It's just a rumor started by some Malon and Link fans. They even made a picture of it off of photoshop.

     

    Secondly, that question that Talon's dad asks Link, again Miyamoto-san is trying to suck you into the world again by adding a little interactivity into the game, just like when other people give you interactive questions that really don't change the game. Like when Zelda asks you ALL those questions when Link and her are discussing Ganondorf and saving Hyrule, no matter what you answer, you still have to save Hyrule.

     

    Here's the interesting part. Those of you that have played Link's Awakening (and I certainly hope you have!) know that Marin and Link fall in love...For our purposes, the only thing that matters here is that Nintendo based Malon on Marin, and that the "romance" aspect of the character was preserved in the transition to Ocarina of Time. -ReRush

    And that part with Marin, "Wow" is all I can say to you. Well, except for - MIYAMOTO-SAN HIMSELF SAID THAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ZELDA!!!!! NOT MALON!!!! Which would mean (since this is supposedly a dream) that Link was dreaming about Zelda and FELL IN LOVE WITH HER. Hmm....

     

    ...With the horse bobbing its head in the background, she pulls his head into her chest. This scene lasts for several surprisingly long moments. When the little scene has finished, a happy noise plays, and a text box pops up. It says, in pink (!) text, "You did it! You helped Cremia!" "You feel all warm and fuzzy inside! Sigh . . .You could get used to this!" Yes, the game actually tells you, using the unusual pink text, what Link feels. Yes, Nintendo actually employed text to convey Link's emotions. Cremia has (literally) put herself "in Link's face," and this has aroused the idea of love in Link's young brain... -ReRush

    Moving on to the Majora's Mask thing about Cremia liking Link, that is sick. That's pedophelia (Just like Saria and Link, disgusting) and I don't think that Nintendo intended for that to be in the game. Malon/Cremia didn't really strike me as a pedophile but you proved me wrong, especialy with that scene that you wrote about. Eww. Michael Jackson and R. Kelly all over again. Besides, I'm pretty sure that Link would have felt that way if any other girl stuck his head in her chest. He's a guy and I'm not surprise that he would feel warm and fuzzy inside after getting his face stuck in some girl's chest. Eww...that is still so disgusting! Sorry about that...

     

    ...there is more than one Link and more than one Zelda, even though those sites tend to hold very strongly to that idea in other parts of their pages. Now, an important part of the Zelda timeline is that each Link and Zelda is descended from a previous Link and Zelda. This means two things. First, Link and Zelda do both marry someone and have children. Second, each generation of Link and Zelda can't marry each other, because that would end up being, well, rather sick. -ReRush

    On to incest! Just kidding. But no, each Link and Zelda isn't descended from the previous Link and Zelda. Only Zelda is because she's a princess. Nintendo even said so. For instance in the Windwaker, it states that the tradition is for young boys to don the hero's clothing in hopes that they will show as much courage as he once did. Which means that this Link is just a random kid, he wasn't descended from Link, the people are just practicing a tradition. Which makes it entirely possible for Link and Zelda to get together and have kids because then each Link and Zelda getting together wouldn't be incest.

     

    In it, Zelda IV is asleep for the whole game. But at the very end of the game, when she is awoken, she gives Link III a kiss as the curtain descends in front of them. It's very much a clich?, and Zelda IV and Link III didn't exactly interact beforehand, but it is fairy tale romance all the same. Of all the games before the 3-D era, Adventure of Link is the only one with even a real hint at romance between Link and Zelda. But the ending to that game is a kind of fitting finale for the Legend as a whole. -Rerush

    The Adventure of Link wasn't the only game to feature Zelda kissing Link, both Oracle games did too. And gues what happened after Zelda kissed Link? Little red HEARTS popped up on the screen. I wonder what the red hearts could possibly mean? I don't know, LOVE, maybe?

     

    There is practically only one scene that could possibly be hinting towards a connection between the two of them. And that is the scene that takes place immediately after the defeat of Ganon. Link I and Zelda I are standing in the middle of the sky, and Zelda tells him that they must return to their own time. Link must hand back the ocarina. He does so, but he lets go of it only reluctantly. That is the moment that some have interpreted to mean that Link and Zelda are "holding hands," that they do not take their hands away because they are enjoying the moment in which their hands touch. This is a possible interpretation, but I find it quite unlikely based on at least two things you can find in the context.

    First, the battle with Ganon. Link has just had a harrowing battle with the holder of the Triforce of Power, not to mention what came before that. Now imagine Link's emotions. You, the courageous warrior, have just gone through terror upon terror and have finally slain the horrible beast that brought curses and monsters onto Hyrule...So, you hold on partially because you don't entirely want to give it up the ocarina, and partially because you're still in shock and wonder at the moment. You certainly aren't thinking about romance-you're thinking about what has gone on before, what has changed, and what will become of you (and the ocarina)...Second, the theme of the game as a whole. (This ties in very much with the previous point.) Time was obviously Link the First's major theme. The idea of the passage of time was stressed constantly throughout Ocarina of Time. The theme wasn't just about the passage of time per se, but the consequences of the passage of time, mostly those consequences that have to do with friendship...Of course, how these themes are developed is a topic for another article on another day, but I might point out that the words of Zelda (disguised as Sheik) were often used to convey these themes. It would be far more in keeping with these themes to interpret the "scene in the sky" in a non-romantic way.-ReRush

    Ah yes, the scene in the sky...cute, if I may say so myself. Yes, it's true that Link just got out of a horrible battle, but Zelda was there, too. She might not have beat Ganon to a pulp, but she did have to watch it all and stay concious, which is a task in itself. Watching something bad happen is horrible, but not as horrible as having it happen to you. So she could feel a bit off in the "Scene in the Sky" like Link does, but that doesn't mean neither one of them can't be thinking about each other romantically. Just because he went through all of those troubles doesn't mean he can't think of love. And yes he might be thinking about what's going to happen to him, what has gone on before, and what has changed but that doesn't mean he can't include Zelda in those thoughts. Including what's going to happen to them when he goes back in time. Truthfullly, we don't know Link's thoughts but it does seem to be pointing more towards romance at this point, especially since Link and Zelda are high up (Hey, many people relate love to a "high" feeling. Huh? Huh? Oh well...) and seem to be in their own little world with just the two of them. That may be the reason why they are up in the air and not in...the Temple of Time for instance.

     

    Before I point out something I would like to say that Sheik also said,"...young love turns into deep affection." That pretty much went past the friendship thing. And I'm pretty sure that Sheik/Zelda was talking about herself and Link. It would make more sense then her talking about Link and Malon, really. And by the way, you just contradicted yourself. You said that Sheik kept mentioning friendship and that was how the game was supposed to be (which doesn't seem to be true). But before that you're saying how Link and Malon should be together. Seems like a double standard to me. It's quite alright for there to be romance in the game when it comes to Link and Malon, but when it comes to Link and Zelda, there's no romance in the game, only friendship.

     

    The world knew nothing of the boy without a fairy. And yet, as The Wind Waker put its, he came as if from nowhere, and shook the foundations of the world, conquering the darkness. But "after battling evil and saving Hyrule," he "crept away from the land that had made him a legend." And so, "done with the battles he once waged across time, he embarked on a journey. A secret and personal journey."...Zelda heard of how he vanished to Termina, and "no one saw him again." Perhaps people did "see" him again, but they didn't see him with true understanding...In my book, it seems fairly clear in saying that he did return to Hyrule. Granted, there is no text explicitly saying it, but the end of the game shows him on Epona in the same place where the game began. This not only makes sense in terms of storytelling, but it's a cinematic way of explicitly telling us that he did indeed return. Not only that, but the sequences before that emphasize departure. -ReRush

    I do, however, wholeheartedly agree with you on the Link returning to Hyrule from Termina topic. I really didn't think people disputed this; I figured it was a given. True that scene with Romani could mean that he was going to stay, but it doesn't mean he's going to stay forever. If getting back through the supposed "chasm" is as hard as it seems, Link would probably appreciate a free place to stay.

     

    Of course both of our theories could be thrown out the window if Nintedo had Link with another girl, but mainly I think they left it open (thought Nintendo strongly hinted towards a certain girl *clears throat but utters something that sounds a lot like 'Zelda'*). Miyamoto-san said that he never answered all the questions (ie. Who does Link love?) because he wants the gamer to use his/her imagination. Even though the true answer could be something not generally accepted, like Miyamoto-san stating that he "...saw Link as a boy at the age of eight" which means that Link would be fifteen after he pulled the sword out of the stand in the Temple of Time. Although, most Zelda fans believe that Link is seventeen when he pulls the Master Sword out of the stand. I don't think the eight-year-old Link will catch on anytime soon.

     

    Well, my time is up and I hope somebody enjoys reading this because I liked writing it!

     

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