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:XD: WOW! This got big Quick! The point seems to have been entirely missed here! The topic is the NEED to believe! not whether or not there is a God! it's as if centuries of political manipulation for the sake of social order has given rise to the need for the individual to believe in something higher than one's self! As the Human species developes (or evolves) so does the complexities of daily routines and the alienation of the human psyche, which is fertile soil for the "CREATORS" of man made secular philosophy to sow the seeds self doubt in the minds of humanity in order to gain and maintain of control society, based on a question that is impossible to answer! how did we get here? It really is not important how we got here, what is important is that we are here! What matters MOST is WHY we are here and removing God from the equation forces the individual to accept personal responsibility on a deeply profound level that few are ready to even explore! Nature is LAW! has been and will always be! When will we get it? we are it's *BLEEP*ing guests! it created us AND our GOD!

I can certainly see why your name is brainless, First of all to pressume that an Atheist is less organized than a religeous person such as yourself, is a fatal error, and a pompous lapse in judgement on your part. All the organization an Atheist needs has been provided throughout history in any and all religeons (your's included). A simple example of the sort of grey area that ANY and ALL religeons fail to cover is the fact that the foundational substance upon which they stand, requires a pathetic and Dangerous abandonment of the very tool and weapon that has ensured human survival to date as a species, and that is INTELLIGENCE! forsaking intelligence for faith is the order of BUSINESS of ALL reliegeons! For you to include "[sorry, I haven't thought this through yet either] " also proves you really don't understand what your talking about. An Atheist does NOT believe, Repeat that! An Atheist DOES NOT BELIEVE! in God, they don't need to believe! YOU NEED to believe in something other than yourself in order compensate for the fact that as an animal you are weak of hand and slow afoot as compared to the rest of nature's creatures! Atheist accept personal responsibility for thier survival and for the survival of the Human race in clear practical "im cold, im hungry, im scared, im happy, im not" terms. And of all the examples of Civilizations to use, you pick the Romans! as your PROOF! that God and or Jesus exists or existed! I can rebut your "circumstantial clay pot physical evidence theory " with two words ....Tyranosaurus Rex! Institutionalized faith sucks and will Destroy what good men and women have built for you to have the Luxury to take for granted. like the screen you are looking at and the chair your buttocks are in WAKE -T -F -UP!

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I have had discussions with this guy who says that people NEED to believe in God and that the process of Belief itself seems to be the undoing of Humanity, for example: the need to believe that there is life beyond physical death drives the daily lives of a significant portion humanity like the Christian right and Islamic extremists! I agree. However, my question to him was Who created all this incuding him and I? Don't get me wrong I don't believe in God but I also know that there is no way around the topic of creation of matter without at least entertaining the idea of a master creation system, entity or process. What say you?