alright , i have read ur reply and i really liked it :rolleyes:but.. i aint giving up that easily :Piam willing to take courses in Languages and stuff like that , whatever it takes to make the game , i got 4 other people with me on this and they wanna do the same , we r willing to do whatever it takesso what should we do , what languages should we learn ?we got ideas which can't be done with any normal 3d engine so we were thinking of building our own 3d engine , i know it will take years , and we r willing to spend that much time what should we think of for a start ?