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lazyasada

So what do you guys think about the new Safari 4? I think it is a bit more slower then the the beta version. I also like how they dropped the tabs bar back down because when i would move them i would minimize the whole browser. So what are your guy's thoughts on the new Safari 4?


akashi

If only mac develops safari for linux too. I tried once in my XP, a little bit slow. It consumes lot of my system resource. I prefer safari then chrome. But still, i prefer firefox than safari :o


FirefoxRocks

On my Windows Vista SP2 machine, Safari runs quite fast. The lack of extensibility is still a big disadvantage to me though. I like the Developer tools where it visually shows you the process of scripts and the network progress though.On my Windows XP SP3 computer, Safari runs extremely slowly for some reason. It uses the same network settings over the wireless network but compared to other browsers, Safari doesn't load the pages half the time for some reason.Overall my browser preferences would go in this order:Firefox/Flock, Google Chrome/Safari, Opera, Internet Explorer, Konqueror


lazyasada

I would like to remind you guys i was/running Safari at the time.


Tian1405241576

I have been using Firefox for one year and I am satisfied with it so far. As one of my friends told me that the feature sets Safari 4 and Firefox 3.1 betas are almost the same. So I do not think I should switch to Safari 4.The main strength of Firefox is that it offers me a bunch of plugins and add-ons available. Plugins like Gladder, Firebug, Screengrab, Adblock and Xmarks (previously known as Foxmarks, which is now available for Safari as well) are genuinely useful. Of course I would replace Firefox with Safari one day Safari work better than Firefox, but I think it would be a lot of work to do.


Atomic0

I still find Safari 4 a bit buggy and slow on Windows systems, compared to running fine in Mac OS X. That's why I still use Mozilla Firefox 3 as my main browser for all my feed reading and general, while I use Google Chrome for quick browsing e.g. when I want to search for something without having to load Mozilla Firefox with lots of extensions.Basically, I am keeping Safari 4 and Internet Explorer 8 for testing purposes when I am doing web design and development.


Quatrux

For years now I'm using Opera as my main browser, but since Firefox 3, when it got faster, I am using it too, I've made it my default browser, that all links in chats and documents would be opened with Firefox, as I don't know what I might see there and in Opera I have all the tabs open I usually need for work, studies and myself. I also search using Opera so it also usually has lots of tabs, which with time I just close.And as somebody mentioned, I use Chrome and IE8 for testing purposes.. Just downloaded Safari 4 for Windows and will try it! As I know google team is porting Google chrome on Linux? So they are porting the GUI or Webkit? Never read to much about it, Webkit is almost the same as KHTML, for testing it's almost the same as Konqueror. :PWow, I like that Safari on Windows now has the Look and Feel for Windows, not as the previous versions I was using which had a GUI for Mac OS :( It's really great and looks quite like Chrome :D and Safari 4 with Opera 10 seems to validate with Acid3 test by 100/100 ;)


takerraj

Surprise! I am doing research on browsers. I am going to post results on my blog. The browsers include Safari 4, IE 8, Firefox 3.5, Opera 10 beta, Chrome, K-meleon, maxthon and 2 more browsers. The tests I am putting them will be determining the fastest browser, lightest browser etc. Also performing Acid 3 tests and checking security vulnerabilities. The ultimate quest to find the best browser available today. Till now I have performed tests to fastest browser, and the results are interesting and some are shocking. I'll also post about it here after all the tests are performed. Coming to safari 4, well the speed is OK. It is the first browser to receive 100/100 in acid3 tests, the later is Opera 10 beta. But Safari on windows is not as powerful as Mac version. Mac version is simply brilliant, I want Apple to show some kindness towards windows users.


akashi

That would be the biggest problem in your research takerraj. Safari 4 in winblows is different with one in Mac. So does FF and Opera (at least that what I feel when I'm using them in my XP and Kubuntu). It would be hard to conduct a fair test on browsing speed for those browsers. Chrome and FF could be the faster ones in XP, but Safari would be the fastest one in Mac, etc.

But Safari on windows is not as powerful as Mac version. Mac version is simply brilliant, I want Apple to show some kindness towards windows users.


yordan

And we also need to define what is a "fast" browser. Fast to open Xisto main page ? Fast navigating from one page to the next one ? Downloading fast?Then, we effectively should, for each hardware, and for each operating system, connected of course to the same Ethernet plug on the same router, define which browser is the fastest one.Google claims that chrome is the fastest one for gmail. Will gmail be your reference site for browser testing ?


takerraj

Yes, Safari on windows is not fastest. Opera did fair good job. Opera 10 beta is promising in its performance. "Fastest" varies a lot on context and understanding. I am just checking which browser is fastest on html pages such as "w3schools".


akashi

How about considering about loading and playing flash object, because almost sites in internet using flash object. For me, opera is very slow >_< and FF is much faster here.

Yes, Safari on windows is not fastest. Opera did fair good job. Opera 10 beta is promising in its performance. "Fastest" varies a lot on context and understanding. I am just checking which browser is fastest on html pages such as "w3schools".


Quatrux

I use Opera and never had any issues with playing Flash, if we are talking about Windows version? nor browsing flash content is faster on any other browser for me unless it's milliseconds.. In fact, when playing flash on Firefox to long, I see that Firefox starts using more CPU than always, so maybe it all depends on the system and different installations? As I know there are several flash plugins, or are they the same?

Adobe Flash Player and Shockwave and Flash Player? I can't even remember which one I'm using, besides everyone should install a browser/all browsers and only later install plugins?

For example, just found on other forums, even though I don't know what to believe, but he also feels that Firefox seems to take more CPU than usually, just like me, so I think it depends on the system configuration, OS and what he has installed and etc.

Today I also noticed that the performance with Flash also requires 50% more CPU compared to the same animation loaded in Firefox 2 or Opera (I was watching a video and I can show the CPU charts if you need proofs)

Other people seem to not get it, I never had any problems with flash on Opera and it was always the same and as fast as on Firefox, as I use a laptop and a month ago after I guess firefox updated itself when watching Youtube with Firefox I feel my fan spinning faster than usually, I looked at task manager and it seems that really Firefox there using more CPU than usually, so it also might be a temporally problem until the next version.

So when saying fastest, I doubt it really is a big problem that some browser opens something 0.003 seconds faster? Opera, Safari and Firefox are good browsers, the one you use is the one which better suits you and to which you are used to? I just don't like IE6 or IE7, IE8 even is much better for an ordinary user who does not know what HTML is. :(

takerraj

For example, just found on other forums, even though I don't know what to believe, but he also feels that Firefox seems to take more CPU than usually, just like me, so I think it depends on the system configuration, OS and what he has installed and etc.

Yes, Firefox takes a lot of memory when compared to other browsers. It takes around 60000K when browsing with a single tab. Opera takes less than 20000K. Safari is around 42000K. Firefox uses much resources. IE and Chrome are also resource hogs.

akashi

My FF takes 300MB memory ;p And I realized that FF sometimes takes lots of memory when it trying to handle flash or java object. I have to kill my x server when it happens.

Yes, Firefox takes a lot of memory when compared to other browsers. It takes around 60000K when browsing with a single tab. Opera takes less than 20000K. Safari is around 42000K. Firefox uses much resources. IE and Chrome are also resource hogs.


wutske

I'm now using Safari at work and I must say that it works very fast (not a surprise since it's a QuadCore with 3Gb of memory :( ).It looks very neat, but there is one BIG problem... memory leaks. Somehow they can't seem to get rid of them and it has already caused other programs to crash (java based app that ran out of memory).Even tough it's good, I miss my Opera mouse gestures and I'll probably never switch to safari as my main browser.


akashi

The characters are messed up at the first time it's installed (I'm using japanese character). But it really fast, nice one. But I can't block ads, that's a problem. After few minutes, it already ate 290 mb of my memory.


xboxrulz1405241485

Personally using Google Chrome over Safari. I love the WebKit engine ... fast, stable, open source. Gotta have to hand it to KDE for starting the KHTML engine which Apple forked to make the WebKit.xboxrulz


Quatrux

I don't use Google chrome anymore, just for privacy reasons and alternative to Safari and Google chrome I'm using Chromium, also know as Iron browser I guess, which is a clone of Google chrome, just doesn't send any private information, the difference is that the form elements are a bit different in appearance, but it's the same webkit, you can get it here:

http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php


Tremayne

I downloaded it but i don't really like safari, the main thing i did'nt like is how it handles tabs and the fact that i could'nt right click the back button to get a list of previously viewed sites and jump back several pages.



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