BitShift

You guys can argue all you want but in my opinion there is no possible way to determine whether or not it was fake by examining movies made in black and white from 1969.

And, since this is the USA everyone is innocent until proven guilty, and that includes our own government. Then we DID land on the moon until the president decides to get on TV in front of the whole nation and tell us we didn't, because that is about the only way we will ever be able to 100% prove whether or not it really happened.

But in my personal opinion, Neal Armstrong was the first person in the human race to step foot on the moon.

One small step for man, one large step for mankind

mpinsky

You guys can argue all you want but in my opinion there is no possible way to determine whether or not it was fake by examining movies made in black and white from 1969.
And, since this is the USA everyone is innocent until proven guilty, and that includes our own government. Then we DID land on the moon until the president decides to get on TV in front of the whole nation and tell us we didn't, because that is about the only way we will ever be able to 100% prove whether or not it really happened.

But in my personal opinion, Neal Armstrong was the first person in the human race to step foot on the moon.

mustra

there are 2 big paradoxe's here:1- why fake something like that ? whats the point ?2- why spend so much money to go to a place they had already probed and analised extensively, would be much cheaper to fake it.there are some real valide theories:1- sugestive manipulation, or what it is called, no one has the original broadband of the videos, the moon landign could have been some kind of brain manipulation when you see it on tv, where it be brain washing, massive manioulation or just spy triggering...i dunno.2-everyone was looking at the tv, that would have myght been of some militar or spionage advantage.3-i doubt they had the technology to go to moon there, the processors they used couldnt handle for sure the calculations necessary for the landing, of that im convinced but i cant back that up.4-there are many real things that many people dont know, its easier to believe in something that is not real then in something that is real, some time ago, 6 to 7 years ago, a russian tv station taped a crash landing of a so called "ovni" they where there, less then 2 meters form it, no one knew about it, some do know, some say its a big fake, but it is not, but do they had aliens inside ? i dont think so.and since we are talking about aliens, if you think that they are no such things like uf0's youre wrong, they exist, but there are no aliens,do you know that there are no aliens ??? do oyu know how will the human race look like in 5 million years from know ? i know !!! will look like the so called "aliens" , our brain is growing and our muscles and hair are falling, look at your smaller fingers, in the hands and in your feet's, theyre getting smaller and lossing mobility, on they theyll dissapear, you hears, your lossing your lobulos, its a recessive gean, just like tru blonds, theyre dissapearing, your hears will soon merge with your head, in some time from know, will look just like aliens.so what are they ? time travelers, einstein proved it was real, i think he has calculations hidden in the vatican, there are even rumours that some slavaged books from alexandria are in there, we can even speculate about magic, do you believe in "magical" powers? no ? d oyou know theyre are theorectical possbile ?you know, sience has moved forward in a way you consider dogmatic, but it isnt, we have the power of the atom, but what is the atom ? its just a theory, so does the way it works, a possiblity proved wrong before, yet it impulses the way sience goes forward, there are many laws of sience that are wrong, even our spectrum of waves and mobility is limeted, we do not have perception of what is around us, we dont even know how light does really work,many many many things out there......i wish i wasnt so laisy, i have some theories i would like to share with the world, theories that im afraid to reveal because i have them backup with facts, and i dont wish to have some sort of organisation wanting to intorragte me with the possibility of me hadding obtained industrial secrets...wich i have not.analyse this has you want.

illini319

With regards to planet colonization: I'm wondering what our first step would be to make Mars habitable. I've watched enough Discovery shows to realize that most experts think that atmosphere and temperature needs to be ameliorated before anything else. But how? Some say that you need to release the frozen carbon dioxide, apparently trapped under Martian soil, to elevate global temperatures. This would hopefully lead to the thawing of the polar ice caps and release the water. Then what? Plant some trees? How will we start generating enough oxygen on that planet to get the atmosphere to an acceptable level for human survival? It seems to me that this is a LONG term project that needs to start ASAP given that it will take decades (perhaps centuries) to accomplish...

mpinsky

With regards to planet colonization: I'm wondering what our first step would be to make Mars habitable. I've watched enough Discovery shows to realize that most experts think that atmosphere and temperature needs to be ameliorated before anything else. But how? Some say that you need to release the frozen carbon dioxide, apparently trapped under Martian soil, to elevate global temperatures. This would hopefully lead to the thawing of the polar ice caps and release the water. Then what? Plant some trees? How will we start generating enough oxygen on that planet to get the atmosphere to an acceptable level for human survival? It seems to me that this is a LONG term project that needs to start ASAP given that it will take decades (perhaps centuries) to accomplish...

 

Houdini

I said this before in an earlier post. I was alive in 1969 and was 16 years old so that lets you know my age (yes I am now 53 years old and a grandfather). The Moon landing was broadcast live (well sort of the technology was not that fast a TTY recieved and transmitted at 55 baud not 56,000 baud like a cheap dialup modem nowdays).

The conspirators will say hey the flag was waving or something else like that. What is not stated is that NASA set up a mock moon surface in the desert to train the astronauts prior to their mission including wearing their suits and all that and there were photographs taken, and some of these photographs have been used not mentioning where they were actually taken, and basically are out of context.

The moon landing was real it happened and the Untied States actually did it on live Crappy Black and white Television. The USSR did not because they had not developed the technology to the point of being able to do so. It was called the "Space Race" and we won and still hold the record. Here see for your self some footage of the filght and landing.

View this link here First Moon Landing July 20 1969

Now if you would like more links then try this Wikipedia link

jimmy89

There has been a documentry that has had quite compelling evidence that it was all a set up and it was all fake. But as people have said, they couldn't have done all of that back then. It might just be one of those debates that will never be solved.

mpinsky

There has been a documentry that has had quite compelling evidence that it was all a set up and it was all fake. But as people have said, they couldn't have done all of that back then. It might just be one of those debates that will never be solved.

 

BitShift

there are 2 big paradoxe's here:
1- why fake something like that ? whats the point ?
2- why spend so much money to go to a place they had already probed and analised extensively, would be much cheaper to fake it.
there are some real valide theories:

1- sugestive manipulation, or what it is called, no one has the original broadband of the videos, the moon landign could have been some kind of brain manipulation when you see it on tv, where it be brain washing, massive manioulation or just spy triggering...i dunno.


3-i doubt they had the technology to go to moon there, the processors they used couldnt handle for sure the calculations necessary for the landing, of that im convinced but i cant back that up.

do you know that there are no aliens ??? do oyu know how will the human race look like in 5 million years from know ? i know !!! will look like the so called "aliens" , our brain is growing and our muscles and hair are falling, look at your smaller fingers, in the hands and in your feet's, theyre getting smaller and lossing mobility, on they theyll dissapear, you hears, your lossing your lobulos, its a recessive gean, just like tru blonds, theyre dissapearing, your hears will soon merge with your head, in some time from know, will look just like aliens.

so what are they ? time travelers, einstein proved it was real, i think he has calculations hidden in the vatican, there are even rumours that some slavaged books from alexandria are in there, we can even speculate about magic, do you believe in "magical" powers? no ? d oyou know theyre are theorectical possbile ?

you know, sience has moved forward in a way you consider dogmatic, but it isnt, we have the power of the atom, but what is the atom ? its just a theory, so does the way it works, a possiblity proved wrong before, yet it impulses the way sience goes forward, there are many laws of sience that are wrong, even our spectrum of waves and mobility is limeted, we do not have perception of what is around us, we dont even know how light does really work,

Alegis

There has been a documentry that has had quite compelling evidence that it was all a set up and it was all fake. But as people have said, they couldn't have done all of that back then. It might just be one of those debates that will never be solved.

writemaggie1

hi all,Have u guys seen any consipiracy videoabout the landing of Neil Armstrong on moon. The video gives many arguments and generates some doubts about whether really the landing on moon occured or it was just a rumor by Nasa.

Do supply your comments.

pzaully

Why would there have to be wind for a flag to move? If theres no atmosphere and therefore no wind or air resistance , wouldnt it keep moving in whatever motion its been put into until gravity eventually stops it?edit: someone else already brought that up i see. I cant believe some of the stuff I'm reading in others posts

Pharoah

Lol this is a really long thread...It's fairly obvious to me that the moon landing was real, but i usually don't get excited looking for conspiracys. Everyone has their own things that interest them, like my History teacher in 8th grade was obsessed with the whole JFK thing i found out. He must have watched that viedo 500 times

RoKeR

well.. why do we care for all tht stuff? did it harm us in any possible way? none.. infact it will harm NASA though.. once discovered!!!

CaptainRon

Strange that this discussion is still on. Let's see what turns up, in the future of space discovery. I wonder why arent the Americans going back to moon once again and rather doing something constructive like estabilishing a Lunar base. I know its a huge task put short, but if they want they can definitely do it. Instead of staying up in the ISS, the world could rather set up its eyes onto a Lunar base.

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