i don't have any mod capabilities for the chat room. it really makes enforcing the rules difficult when users can't be kicked or banned from chat. i had to suspend ash's account for an hour....and then a week after he was abusing things in the chat room and after i origianlly gave him a warning.now this could have been avoided if i could have just kicked him out of the room or ban him from chat. it would not only have been easier, but more fairso can the mods have their chat room privlidges back please? more and more users are entering chat over the last few days
This AREA was touched by Buff and We have to wait for him to respond to this THREAD.I need to discuss this before making any new changes.-shree
If moderators who were given the position to uphold it with dignity, I wouldn't have to turn off the moderator's options.I have received too many complaints about moderators kicking members out--this wasn't just one or two PMs. I have over 20--without breaking the chatroom rules and they are being alienated by the forum and moderators. If ash's behavior was nipped at the beginning instead of bantering back and forth, he would not have misunderstood that no means no. How moderators carry the conversation in the chatroom should also reflect how we enforce the forum.Moderator option for the chat box will not return until I am sufficiently satisfied that we all can handle it with maturity. Besides, we can't even delete a single chatline because of how it is built by the IP.Board. Warn, suspend, ban whatever you can do. If that's not enough I will perma-ban the member. Just send me a PM with member's name and reason.
If moderators who were given the position to uphold it with dignity, I wouldn't have to turn off the moderator's options.
I have received too many complaints about moderators kicking members out--this wasn't just one or two PMs. I have over 20--without breaking the chatroom rules and they are being alienated by the forum and moderators.
If ash's behavior was nipped at the beginning instead of bantering back and forth, he would not have misunderstood that no means no. How moderators carry the conversation in the chatroom should also reflect how we enforce the forum.
Moderator option for the chat box will not return until I am sufficiently satisfied that we all can handle it with maturity. Besides, we can't even delete a single chatline because of how it is built by the IP.Board. Warn, suspend, ban whatever you can do. If that's not enough I will perma-ban the member. Just send me a PM with member's name and reason.
since buffalohelp has made a stand to not allow moderators to enforce the rules, i am going to make it clear to EVERYONE in the chat room that there are no rules to be enforced.no opaque, i will not pm you if someone breaks a rule. that is third grade immaturity at it's finest except hall monitors could write a ticket. the mods here need to ask permission? i don't think so. i ain't playing this game
that's fine....but you sure do think you know a lot about the chat room when you're not even in there. but hey, you're an admin. you're supposed to pretend you know a lot about nothing....this is what your whole post was about. a lesson to be learned from mods in how to present themselves...maybe we all need something to learn to be just like you....
maybe you need to talk to opaque about your little problem because even when you take away the privlidges, people still get kicked for no reason. funny how that works....
opaque gave people mod privlidges for a reason and you are underestimating his decisions, buff! i think you disrespect his decisions. but that is only my opinion.... i think it's wrong when admins share differenet opinions about who should have control over the forum.
if there is a problem with people abusing things, you deal with that individual accordingly. you don't make everyone else suffer because of one person. if i took your logic to heart, everyone would be banned from posting!
this is one of the reasons the forum is going downhill. this is *BLEEP*!
first i said to you when you made me mod was that i didn't like it. but i care too much about this forum NOT to accept that responsibility and i take it seriously.one thing i always respected about the mods and YOU was that you hand selected the mods because in some way, shape or form, you TRUST them to moderate. even if a mod makes a mistake, you stand by a mods decision. that is something i respected because any other way would be contradictory to your original decision. THIS is why a moderators job takes on a huge responsibility when they understand why they are a mod in the first place?you think i am talking third grade now opaque? you have given people the powere to moderate and buffalohelp has taken away those powers because he doesn't trust the moderators. how do you feel about that? he is contradicting your own thoughts. oh, we can moederate the forum.....just not the chat room? the one area that needs moderation the most at times? that doesn't make senselet me tell you how i felt about the ASH incident. i felt like an IDIOT! i had to suspend his account but he was still allowed to do what he did. talking to buffalohelp AFTER the fact doesn't solve the problem.i will tell you another thing. a person can't speak on what he doesn't know. buffalohelp is never in the chat room. how do i know that? because i am always in there. so is web designer and she is my eyes when i am not in there. the chat room is a GREAT thing and i am glad you are keeping it for now. it's a better way to grow a community when people are done posting. people come in there to chat and get to know eachother on a more personal level. but when you allow that to happen, it NEEDS moderation. the more people in one place needs more mods. that is common sense!i am not talking out of my *bottom* nor am i using third grade language so don't try to ignore what i am saying by downplaying it. i am passionate about this forum. this is why i have a loud voice at times. buffalohelp is WRONG but it's up to him to see his own errors. he ain't perfect. none of us are.....but we do all have to trust eachother here! something buffalohelp doesn't right now. says a lot! more than i want to know right now....i like you and a like buffalohelp for different reasons.....but i am not going to be silent about something that i am passionate about. and if you two don't know me enough to understand what i am saying....it's your own faults. not mine.
You can be passionate about our forum without using foul words and tones.If you want the controls back for the chat room, show me you can be trusted. You proclaim that moderators are to be trusted because they were hand picked. And as said in my reply to your PM, this time the trust was betrayed.And certainly, I still cannot trust you after reading your replies. When going gets tough you retaliate or quit. You want to blame me for leaving the forum and making this forum go down the hill? That is fine. I take full responsibility.OpaQue, thank for your kind words. But if you feel that changes are in order I will not hold you for blame. People want me gone or resigned maybe anwiii can lead the opposition.
the only opposition i will be making is for my own rights and choices. i really don't see me being a mod in anyones best interest when you can come clean out and say i cannot be trusted. i am not playing this game and i certainly don't like your politics on this issue.chat room needs to be moderated just like the forums do. when a user spams ansi porn in public, that user should be dealt with directly and swiftly so other users do see that crap on here. especially women who easliy get offended. i was absolutely shocked in what i saw.one of the main reasons i posted this issue here was because suspending a user might have been to harsh and i was a big enough guy to come out ad admit it right from the start and try to open up an important issue that in my mind needs addressing.now you haver turned this whole thing around on me like i am some bad guy here. i read your pm's and i read what you have to say publically. there are no words to express how wrong i feel you are right now.one thing i know about me, bh is that yes, i am blunt and my first impressions don't come off too well sometimes. but there is a reason why you brag about getting cursed all the time and hated and even recieve death threats to your own addmission and there is a reason why i have never recieved one hate mail that even comes close to what you admit to recieving.everyone has something different to offer. the mods and admins are no different than anyone else except for the fact that they are willing contributors to go out of their way to try and make the forums a better place. sure, mods will make mistakes here and there. so will the admins because nobody is perfect. that's why your self rightious attitide makes me wasnt to throw up because in your eyes, you think your better than me or other people? makes me sick. makes me even sicker to when you admitted why i was made mod in your pm's. i would rather be a clown than a fool any day!also, when you recieve compliants from users, it's best to allow that user to try to sort out their problem with the certain individual FIRST. it's the only way where differences can be talked about, understood, and solved civily. how can mods learn from their mistakes if they don't even know what the problem is?i'm sorry, but you just leave a bad taste in my mouth right now and it reflects on how i view this forum now. besides insult me constantly, all you did was take away something where moderators cannot do their job properly so my advice to you is to keep your own self in check sometimes so you can enforce this "greater responsibility" on your own self when it is needed.
i am closing this thread. i have wrote opaque to make me a regular member. i can't possibly accept this position of moderator after hearing what i did in a pm. i feel like a fool and plus, the position of moderators should only be given to members you trust. not those who you don't trust.all i know is that i have done a lot more good here than bad.... and i feel like a fool now!
Its all my fault Buff. I let my mouth loose in the chat box and all followed. When I launched the chat, I should have enforced the rules like you do. I was nor strict.. nor mature. However, I accept my attitude was wrong and take the blame for soo much bitterness.Can we please allow Moderator Privileges in Chat?I have faith in Anwii.